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Post  Plant me on 1/18/2020, 11:28 am

Thank you for the Garlic tip. Great help. Since is not in Mel's book. Can someone tell me How many celery can I put in a square? I am thinking 4? Maybe wrong, but I thought I would ask. Thank you.
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Post  LilBittyBean on 1/18/2020, 11:42 am

@Plant me wrote:Thank you for the Garlic tip. Great help. Since is not in Mel's book. Can someone tell me How many celery can I put in a square? I am thinking 4? Maybe wrong, but I thought I would ask. Thank you.
Hey there! I've got celery in my SFG and I planted them 4 per square. They are happy and growing along nicely with that spacing. Hope that helps!
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Post  OhioGardener on 1/18/2020, 12:26 pm

Celery is a great to inter-plant with members of the Brassica family, such as cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, or broccoli. The strong odor of the celery repels the cabbage moth, while the cabbage plants provide shade and windbreak for the young celery plants.  I have also have had success inter-planting with bush beans, but the celery plants do interfere with picking the beans somewhat.

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Post  LilBittyBean on 1/18/2020, 1:55 pm

@OhioGardener wrote:Celery is a great to inter-plant with members of the Brassica family, such as cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, or broccoli. The strong odor of the celery repels the cabbage moth, while the cabbage plants provide shade and windbreak for the young celery plants.  I have also have had success inter-planting with bush beans, but the celery plants do interfere with picking the beans somewhat.
Wow! I wondered why I seemed so lucky as to not have many pests around my cabbages and broccoli. Turns out I picked the right spots/squares for my celery!  Laughing
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Post  Plant me on 1/19/2020, 7:19 am

Thank you.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 1/20/2020, 4:57 pm

Thanks, everybody, I can’t wait to try some!
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 2/27/2020, 5:07 pm

My Tango variety is up on day 11 without artificial lights or heat.  Now however, they are under lights and on a low heating pad.  Excited!
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Post  markqz on 2/27/2020, 10:53 pm

@OhioGardener wrote:Celery is a great to inter-plant with members of the Brassica family, such as cabbage, brussel sprouts, cauliflower, or broccoli.
I suppose the same thing applies to celeriac? They promised it was easier to grow than celery, and in a sense it has been easy. It hasn't been attacked by insects the way the Brassicas are. But it's taken 90 days to grow only about 3 inches high. I'll have to try leaning over and giving the plant a sniff. I didn't know celeries (sp?) had much of a smell.
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Post  markqz on 2/27/2020, 10:56 pm

@Plant me wrote:Thank you for the Garlic tip. Great help. Since is not in Mel's book. Can someone tell me How many celery can I put in a square? I am thinking 4? Maybe wrong, but I thought I would ask. Thank you.
The celery is in Mel's book in the index in the section "All about celery." I just learned, to my chagrin, that it doesn't like to be transplanted. I don't have celery, but I do have the closely related celeriac.
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Post  Dan in Ct on 3/2/2020, 10:58 am

Markqz, I start celery indoors now, one of the first seeds I get wet. I pot up and some I don't get out of Red Solo cups until July after I harvest garlic here and utilize those raised beds. Celery needs light to germinate! About 10 years ago, I tried Celeriac but I never did get it to germinate and gave up on it. I thought I would capture the Buffalo Wing restaurant produce market with it. Celeriac being a relative might also need light.
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Post  OhioGardener on 3/2/2020, 11:20 am

@Dan in Ct wrote:. Celeriac being a relative might also need light.

Yes, Celeriac seeds need light to germinate, and they need very warm moist soil - 75°F. Also, they can take up to 3 weeks to germinate.  They require a lot of patience, especially for old guys like me that is afraid to even buy green bananas.

Growing Celeriac is easy, but time consuming. They need to be spaced about 6" apart, and need to be frequently hilled or mulched to keep the root covered. But, when they are harvested about 5 months later, they are worth the effort.

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Post  markqz on 3/2/2020, 11:38 am

@Dan in Ct wrote: I thought I would capture the Buffalo Wing restaurant produce market with it. Celeriac being a relative might also need light.
I don't understand this reference. Is this a specialty produce market, or is celeriac used in making buffalo wings?

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Post  markqz on 3/2/2020, 12:04 pm

@OhioGardener wrote:Yes, Celeriac seeds need light to germinate, and they need very warm moist soil - 75°F. Also, they can take up to 3 weeks to germinate. 
Yes, the first time I tried they didn't germinate at all. The second time it did indeed take about 3 weeks to germinate. Even here, we won't have 75F soil until May, and maybe not until July.

My experience has been that I can plant things in February, but then they will just sit in the ground. Heavy cloud cover from March to May prevents ground warming. Meanwhile, my relatives in your neighboring "mitten" state will plant in April. By May, their garden will be flourishing. Mine will still be mostly just sitting there. But that was before SFG and tulle, so maybe this year will be different.
@OhioGardener wrote:They require a lot of patience, especially for old guys like me that is afraid to even buy green bananas.
Just write them into your will -- problem solved!
@OhioGardener wrote:Growing Celeriac is easy, but time consuming. They need to be spaced about 6" apart, and need to be frequently hilled or mulched to keep the root covered. But, when they are harvested about 5 months later, they are worth the effort.
Mine are reaching 6". I didn't know about the hilling -- thanks for the tip! They have been "easy" in the sense that they haven't been attacked by anything.
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Post  Dan in Ct on 3/2/2020, 2:52 pm

Markqz, here Buffalo Wings come with celery stalks, slices of carrots and a condiment container of blue cheese. Celeriac has a celery like stock and more of a lettuce leaf. So those who don't want wings could have a salad at least that was how I was going to sell it if I got an over abundance when growing celeriac. Now do you really want to ask me about how I am doing in crossing a tomato and an onion while trying to corner the roadside food stand condiment market.
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Post  OhioGardener on 3/2/2020, 6:06 pm

Celeriac makes great slaw, with some carrots.

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/2/2020, 6:51 pm

@Dan in Ct wrote:Markqz, here Buffalo Wings come with celery stalks, slices of carrots and a condiment container of blue cheese. Celeriac has a celery like stock and more of a lettuce leaf. So those who don't want wings could have a salad at least that was how I was going to sell it if I got an over abundance when growing celeriac. Now do you really want to ask me about how I am doing in crossing a tomato and an onion while trying to corner the roadside food stand condiment market.
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Post  markqz on 3/2/2020, 7:11 pm

@Dan in Ct wrote: Now do you really want to ask me about how I am doing in crossing a tomato and an onion while trying to corner the roadside food stand condiment market.

Well, if they can cross a flounder and tomato , then why not?

(Yes, I know it may not be real. but still ...).
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/2/2020, 8:56 pm

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@Dan in Ct wrote:Now do you really want to ask me about how I am doing in crossing a tomato and an onion while trying to corner the roadside food stand condiment market.

Well, if they can cross a flounder and tomato , then why not?

(Yes, I know it may not be real. but still ...).
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Post  Dan in Ct on 3/4/2020, 10:37 am

markqz, my bad not celeriac but celtuce that I tried to grow. Only found this out today while researching the history of vegetables and cross referencing to area of origin. It all started with trying to learn what the oldest vegetable is, what with St. Paddy's Day coming up and trying to lessen the chances of a brawl breaking out over the answer, I thought I should know the answer. If not to stop a fight, at least to make some money on a bet. Anyone who is still reading my posts, please be advised that I am forgetting things at an alarming rate, couple that with the fact that I have somehow acquired the ability to make things up it seems off the top of my head and no visible internet information police this lends itself to increasing incidents of misinformation and me wondering how internet rumors get started.
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Post  markqz on 3/4/2020, 12:51 pm

@Dan in Ct wrote:markqz, my bad not celeriac but celtuce ... increasing incidents of misinformation and me wondering how internet rumors get started.
Well, I just learned that "celtuce" is a thing, so that's something. Though it seems to me that it should be called "lettery" because it's actually a lettuce looking vaguely like a celery rather than the other way around.
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Post  OhioGardener on 3/4/2020, 2:17 pm

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@Dan in Ct wrote:markqz, my bad not celeriac but celtuce ... increasing incidents of misinformation and me wondering how internet rumors get started.
Well, I just learned that "celtuce" is a thing, so that's something. Though it seems to me that it should be called "lettery" because it's actually a lettuce looking vaguely like a celery rather than the other way around.

Often referred to as: Celtuce, a Mutant and Delicious Lettuce, aka “stem lettuce,” “asparagus lettuce,” or “celery lettuce". Smile

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Post  Scorpio Rising on 3/4/2020, 5:53 pm

I have never seen it.  Interesting...
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 5/12/2020, 10:25 pm

I feel like Swiss Chard is like this around here...lots of leaf, nice rib...colors...
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