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Re: Keeping bees
Our fall flow is just about over. It's been a banner year with few queen problems, wonderful weather and great flows for lots of honey.
I have to take off the last of the supers, do a mite drop check, and treat if necessary, in a few weeks.
How are things going in your apiary?
I have to take off the last of the supers, do a mite drop check, and treat if necessary, in a few weeks.
How are things going in your apiary?
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Question
There are a ton of bees living in my patio, going in and out of a chink in the mortar between bricks. LOTS of them. How do I tell what kind they are?
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Re: Keeping bees
Post a photo here. Maybe we can help you.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Re: Keeping bees
No, the base of my patio is brick that my house is made of, about 2 feet tall. Over that is a big slab of concrete. Said chink in mortar is about a foot off the ground under the patio concrete. I will get pics tomorrow. I have a feeling they are wasps, not cute fuzzy (relatively speaking of course) bees. Hymenoptera for sure.
Pics in the AM.
Pics in the AM.
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Re: Keeping bees
Hymenoptera aren't bees, to be sure. But post a piccy and we'll see what they are.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Re: Keeping bees
camprn wrote:Hymenoptera aren't bees, to be sure. But post a piccy and we'll see what they are.
I did not know that. I will get you pics!
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Re: Keeping bees
camprn wrote:Hymenoptera aren't bees, to be sure. But post a piccy and we'll see what they are.
??
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthropoda/uniramia/hymenoptera.html
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/library/compendium/hymenoptera.html
Re: Keeping bees
I miswrote. Hymenoptera are not all bees.sanderson wrote:camprn wrote:Hymenoptera aren't bees, to be sure. But post a piccy and we'll see what they are.
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http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthropoda/uniramia/hymenoptera.html
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/library/compendium/hymenoptera.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apidae
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasp
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Re: Keeping bees
https://servimg.com/view/19257783/28
Here is one, they are hard to get a picture of.
Here is one, they are hard to get a picture of.
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https://servimg.com/view/19257783/26
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Re: Keeping bees
OK, yeah, I knew hymenoptera were not all bees, even ants are part of that order. I don't think these are honey bees, not cute and furry, rather waspy looking. But they move so fast! Not sure.
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Re: Keeping bees
Looks like a wasp's nest to me, those look like yellow jackets from what I can see. I believe wasps die out in winter, no? So they may not even come back next year. You can spray the foundation there with lemon dish soap and water, that's supposed to keep them away. I'd probably do it in early spring before they look for nesting spots.
What do the rest of you think?
What do the rest of you think?
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Re: Keeping bees
Yellow jacket or even possibly syrphid fly. I know it's hard to get a clear closeup.
Re: Keeping bees
Yeah, that is what I thought too, they even act kinda like yellow jackets, they don't like it when I have to turn on the water spigot which is right there next to that area. And they definitely don't like it when Z noses around there. I will try that next spring with the lemon dish soap. Try to keep them away. Or maybe just repair that chink in the mortar.
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Re: Keeping bees
Yellow Jackets
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Keeping bees
Will they die over the winter?
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Re: Keeping bees
My wasps tend to build nests under the eaves of my chicken coop, so I can see them. When frost hits, they die. But they could rebuild the nest in the same area next spring, so you might want to put something in that crack.
On the other hand, wasps are good for the garden. They eat garden pests. I've seen a wasp wrestle a cabbage worm, because their developing young need protein. You just don't want them in an area where you'll get stung, because I've found they don't think twice about stinging you. They seem to enjoy it.
On the other hand, wasps are good for the garden. They eat garden pests. I've seen a wasp wrestle a cabbage worm, because their developing young need protein. You just don't want them in an area where you'll get stung, because I've found they don't think twice about stinging you. They seem to enjoy it.
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Re: Keeping bees
Right, NHG, I know wasps are good predators. I just don't like their location. Thanks!
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Re: Keeping bees
They will die when freezing weather comes. They do not store food, and there will be next to nothing after a freeze, so they starve. They've already raised queens, now mated and finding hiding spots for the winter, so there will be new colonies next year. I've found it unusual for them to nest in the same spot in subsequent years. That may be for protection of their health.Scorpio Rising wrote:Will they die over the winter?
Re: Keeping bees
Thanks, pollinator, good to know. They are just right by my spigot, and they seem to resent my presence, so I hope they move on! I will probably caulk up the hole early spring just to make sure nobody else moves in there!
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Re: Keeping bees
Here in the UK it's quite common for wasps to go dormant and overwinter in a massive nest so long as there is a heat source near them to stop them freezing to death .. they have many many queens in such nests.
The biggest overwintering wasp nest I've taken out was big enough to fill 15 x 80 litre heavy duty rubble sacks . It was a good seven feet deep and eight feet long nestled in the roof void of an old folks residential home.
I've also come across several big over wintering wasp nests in between bales of hay stored undercover on pallets in the same bigger building where a few horses are stables in commercial stalls.
The biggest overwintering wasp nest I've taken out was big enough to fill 15 x 80 litre heavy duty rubble sacks . It was a good seven feet deep and eight feet long nestled in the roof void of an old folks residential home.
I've also come across several big over wintering wasp nests in between bales of hay stored undercover on pallets in the same bigger building where a few horses are stables in commercial stalls.
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Re: Keeping bees
Oh dear, plantoid, I hope this is a transient horde, and there is no heat where they are in winter. It gets really cold here, below 0F, -18C...cold.
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Re: Keeping bees
plantoid wrote:Here in the UK it's quite common for wasps to go dormant and overwinter in a massive nest so long as there is a heat source near them to stop them freezing to death .. they have many many queens in such nests.
The biggest overwintering wasp nest I've taken out was big enough to fill 15 x 80 litre heavy duty rubble sacks . It was a good seven feet deep and eight feet long nestled in the roof void of an old folks residential home.
I've also come across several big over wintering wasp nests in between bales of hay stored undercover on pallets in the same bigger building where a few horses are stables in commercial stalls.
This would be the exception, rather than the rule here in the US. I've seen overwintering wasp nests in Florida, where it would be more common. I remember one humungous nest in a porch ceiling in upstate NY that survived winter, so it can happen. I had to remove that one in the spring - and they weren't happy about it. But, in all my years of observing them, this is the only one I've ever seen or heard of, where winters are cold.
Re: Keeping bees
One of my neighbors had an indoor beehive set up next to a window. It was 2 houses away and I thought I MUST be seeing things, but I broke out the binoculars just to be sure.
What's odd in the wasp department here is that I see a lot of different wasps, but I've only seen one nest so far (common paper-wasp type about 4" across). There are so many overhangs here in the village that I'm surprised I haven't seen another one anywhere. I guess the rest of the wasps in the neighborhood (and other places I've been) must have friendly people setting up places for wasps next to their indoor bee hives.![Laughing](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif)
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What's odd in the wasp department here is that I see a lot of different wasps, but I've only seen one nest so far (common paper-wasp type about 4" across). There are so many overhangs here in the village that I'm surprised I haven't seen another one anywhere. I guess the rest of the wasps in the neighborhood (and other places I've been) must have friendly people setting up places for wasps next to their indoor bee hives.
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