Getting rid of past canned goods

littlejo 11/22/2012, 10:48 am

Happy Thanksgiving!

I'm trying to watch the parade, in between the 'many commercials'
I decided to clean the cupboard, making room for the canned goods from this yr. Some things have changed colors, and most are dated from '09. I'm not going to eat this stuff. My question, can some of it go in the compost, or should it just go in the trash?
b & b pickles--trash?
jellies-strawberry, orange marm., apple
peaches, canned in juice, just look bad.

Applesauce and a. butter--looks fine, but how long can these be kept and still be good to eat?

Maybe this should be under compost?

Jo

**camprn** 11/22/2012, 11:15 am

I compost in the pile all my old canned goods, including pickles.

**llama momma** 11/22/2012, 12:11 pm

Old spices can be composted too.

**Kelejan** 11/22/2012, 1:15 pm

llama momma wrote:Old spices can be composted too.

Just make sure you don't put some of them on the worms. e.g. pepper.

**camprn** 11/22/2012, 1:47 pm

I was assuming that the question was in regards to a compost pile and not a worm farm. In regards to the worm farm, I would not put pickles in there.

littlejo 11/22/2012, 2:06 pm

Thanks all,
No way would I put this stuff on my little angels. They get the peels, etc. may be frozen first, but.

I hardly ever throw anything away anymore. I look at things and I see 'could I compost that or use in my garden'

Jo

**Kelejan** 11/22/2012, 5:06 pm

camprn wrote:I was assuming that the question was in regards to a compost pile and not a worm farm. In regards to the worm farm, I would not put pickles in there.

Just a little joke, camprn. I doubt anyone would put stuff like that in their wormbins.

FamilyGardening 11/22/2012, 5:38 pm

littlejo wrote:Thanks all,
No way would I put this stuff on my little angels. They get the peels, etc. may be frozen first, but.

I hardly ever throw anything away anymore. I look at things and I see 'could I compost that or use in my garden'

Jo

Jo hubby and i were just talking about the same thing last night....we look at everything now in a differnt way too....most of what we use to throw into the garbage can is now for the worms, compost pile, dogs, wood stove or recyled.....we went from 2 large garbage cans full to the rim.... down to 1 garbage can sometimes only half full Shocked

i know this will sound gross but we cooked up a bunch of beef and i wanted to save the broth to make soup with it....so we put the juice in the frig over night so that the fat would harden on top.....the next morning when we took out the bowel with the juice...and lifted off a thick layer of harden lard...my first thought was....this is the fixin to make soap rofl

never made soap but i have watched video's on it..... rofl

hugs
rose

plantoid 11/22/2012, 7:46 pm

You'll have every dog , cat and coyote in the region after you if you make and use soap made from meat fat Laughing

littlejo 11/22/2012, 8:45 pm

I know soap is made with fats, and cannot see how we are getting clean!

Speaking of animals after you, I once had a cheap pair of fuzzy houseshoes, supposedly made of fake fur. All the dogs, including my own, would growl at me and bite at my houseshoes. I concluded they were probably made of rabbit, maybe. I had to get rid of them.

Lindacol 11/22/2012, 10:54 pm

Beef fat can be used to make soap:
http://www.ehow.com/how_7697409_make-soap-beef-fat.html

By the time it is made into soap there is no meat smell.

I just happened to have attended a class on soap making this week We made goat milk soap with a much easier recipe that uses Cisco, and various vegetable oils along with the lye and goat milk.

FamilyGardening 11/23/2012, 12:18 am

plantoid wrote:You'll have every dog , cat and coyote in the region after you if you make and use soap made from meat fat

*If you look on the label of most any commercially available soap today, you'll see "Sodium Tallowate" listed as an ingredient. Sodium Tallowate is the byproduct of mixing lye with tallow or beef fat. (Technically, tallow is fat (beef or other) that has been rendered.)Yup...the #1 ingredient used in most soaps is beef fat.*
http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/soapmakingoils/ss/rendertallow.htm

speaking of cats......when i was watching a you tube video on making soap....she (Debs) was taking the hot tallow (beef fat) out side to cool down and she had what seemed like all the cats in the neighborhood on her back porch...... rofl

she has 5 part video's from start to finish on how to make soap...excellent teacher and very funny!

this is part 2 Clarifying the Tallow ....at 5:14 mark here comes the cats rofl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWa6PZ-_O5g&feature=plcp

hugs
rose

meatburner 11/23/2012, 12:46 am

Kelejan wrote:
camprn wrote:I was assuming that the question was in regards to a compost pile and not a worm farm. In regards to the worm farm, I would not put pickles in there.
Just a little joke, camprn. I doubt anyone would put stuff like that in their wormbins.

I am never surprised what people actually will ask if they should do. Sometimes I see a post that must be a joke but turns out to be a real post that pails common sence. It's like,"Really are you serious?"

**camprn** 11/23/2012, 12:51 am

meatburner wrote:
Kelejan wrote:
camprn wrote:I was assuming that the question was in regards to a compost pile and not a worm farm. In regards to the worm farm, I would not put pickles in there.
Just a little joke, camprn. I doubt anyone would put stuff like that in their wormbins.
I am never surprised what people actually will ask if they should do. Sometimes I see a post that must be a joke but turns out to be a real post that pails common sence. It's like,"Really are you serious?"

Meatburner, I know what you mean, but at the least they asked a question. Knowledge isn't common until everyone is in the know...... I know I ask questions sometimes that people wonder why I ask...... usually it is because I want to know the answer, on occasion it is purely rhetorical.

Sometimes I love rhetoric. affraid

cheyannarach 11/24/2012, 10:33 am

My dad always said the only stupid question is the one you don't ask, but really I am just suprised that soap is made from fat!

CapeCoddess 11/24/2012, 7:24 pm

FamilyGardening wrote:
speaking of cats......when i was watching a you tube video on making soap....she (Debs) was taking the hot tallow (beef fat) out side to cool down and she had what seemed like all the cats in the neighborhood on her back porch......

she has 5 part video's from start to finish on how to make soap...excellent teacher and very funny!

this is part 2 Clarifying the Tallow ....at 5:14 mark here comes the cats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWa6PZ-_O5g&feature=plcp

hugs
rose

Rose, thanks for this link! I only got to see 1 & 2 coz I can't find the rest, being YouTube challenged and all. But how fun & easy is that! She's so clear even *I* could do it. And the cats sticking their nose and paw into her business IS very funny. Laughing

CC

FamilyGardening 11/24/2012, 8:18 pm

CC here are all the soap video's so far
hint.....if you go to the person main page....(click on their you tube name)....then go to the search spot at the upper right top side of the page....you can put in any word/words that you are looking for and it will give you all their video's with that in the title of the video Very Happy

Making bar soap cooking the beef and rendering it down to tallow (beef fat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWPqjQekj2A&feature=plcp

Clarifying the tallow (beef fat)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWa6PZ-_O5g&feature=plcp

hot processing soap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSctVwdWQg&feature=plcp

hot process adding vanilla, honey and oatmeal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0xOVzgkcv4&feature=plcp

very easy and very fancy hot processing (shorter over view of making soap)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3-cuV7IZag&feature=plcp

hugs
rose who thinks it looks pretty easy as well and likes how it goes along the lines of no waste.....

CapeCoddess 11/26/2012, 11:47 am

Oooo...thanks, Rose! I'm so slow at work this will give me something to do. Rolling Eyes

CC

Judy McConnell 7/27/2013, 9:22 am

From your replies, it seems that vinegar, salt, and sugar can be added to compost piles without harm to the decomposers.

Do you water the compost after adding pickles and jellies, jams, etc.? How often do you add extra preserved OLD stuff?

**camprn** 7/27/2013, 9:30 am

Judy McConnell wrote:From your replies, it seems that vinegar, salt, and sugar can be added to compost piles without harm to the decomposers.

Do you water the compost after adding pickles and jellies, jams, etc.? How often do you add extra preserved OLD stuff?

If I have a bunch of old canned goods that need disposal or I want the jars for something else, all that preserved food goes right in the compost pile at the same time. But I am not pouring 5 gallon buckets of stuff out. I don't trouble myself too much about sugar and acid, it will all rot eventually.
No worries, just dump it in the bin and get back to what you were doing... that is my recommendation.

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