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Post  sanderson on 5/21/2020, 7:33 pm

The garlic bed is empty and I am thinking about planting Cannellini Lingot beans The Territorial packet states 85 days, I presume from sprouting.

Are these suitable for hot summer growing? They will receive full hot sun until 1-2 pm and will fall under the shade cloth after that. Next week we may be in the low 100 degrees.

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Post  Dan in Ct on 5/22/2020, 8:14 am

Hi sanderson, it has been my experience that legumes can't or shouldn't follow legumes. I planted bush beans following the garlic harvest one year and not one of the seeds germinated. A quick search into companion planting will also show that it is not advised. It is why I grow extra celery and flow the garlic with that and a tomato or pepper plant or two or a few.
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Post  OhioGardener on 5/22/2020, 8:40 am

@Dan in Ct wrote:Hi sanderson, it has been my experience that legumes can't or shouldn't follow legumes. I planted bush beans following the garlic harvest one year and not one of the seeds germinated. A quick search into companion planting will also show that it is not advised. It is why I grow extra celery and flow the garlic with that and a tomato or pepper plant or two or a few.

Dan, I'm assuming you meant to say "legumes can't or shouldn't follow alliums". All of the companion plant charts show the beans don't like onions. But, I wonder if that has any bearing on onions having been in the soil the year before affecting the beans this year. I have bush beans growing in a section adjacent to the bunching onions - each section of the bed is 4'x4', with no soil barrier between them.  All of the beans that are right next to the onions germinated and are growing nicely. In another bed I have perennial onions planted, and last year there were pole beans next to them, which did very well.

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Post  sanderson on 5/22/2020, 1:13 pm

Hi, guy, we will find out in a week or so. Very Happy I sowed the seeds last night. My options for the 2'x4' bed were beans or corn, and I had these beans on hand.

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Post  Dan in Ct on 5/22/2020, 5:57 pm

Hi Larry, yes that is exactly what I meant. I have seen garden plans where legumes followed alliums as in one year to the next but almost in every companion planting article or book that I have read, there is always a caution and that caution I have experienced first hand. Just trying to share, not trying to stop anyone from growing what they want they want to grow. I am feeling like the White Rabbit in Alice in Wonderland but before I go, did you grow a cover crop between the alliums and the legumes ?
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Post  OhioGardener on 5/22/2020, 6:35 pm

@Dan in Ct wrote:did you grow a cover crop between the alliums and the legumes ?

Yes, and no.  The yes - In the bed that was dedicated onions, a Winter Rye cover crop was planted after the onions were harvested. The next spring green beans were grown in that bed.

The no - Where the perennial multiplier onions are, that section never has a cover crop - just refreshed compost every fall and/or spring.  Next to those onions is a strip of pole beans that grow up the trellis. Sometimes the onions multiply right in between the beans, but I always to contain them where they belong.  Those onions are great at keeping the rabbits and deer out of my beans, though.

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Post  sanderson on 5/27/2020, 3:01 pm

The beans are sprouting! Sowed 5-21 and sprouting 5-27!

The nice thing about SFG (and California) is that my beds are planted 12/365. No rest for the MM, only more and more blended composts.

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