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Post  Scorpio Rising Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:16 pm

I have planted 5 common milkweed plants (small!) in an area of my back yard that is vacant, and I am expecting 6 swamp milkweed plants from a Pennsylvania nursery any day.  I have a butterfly bush, brand new, since I lost 2 huge ones winter before last.  Cannot locate any butterfly weed anywhere, and neither can my local nursery.  I have a large perennial bed in front, and medium area in back around patio/pool area.  I have bee balm, daylilies, per. geraniums, Columbine, violets, loosestrife, etc. 

Anything else I can do to help the monarchs, and collaterally, honeybees?  Any particular plants, environmental controls to put in place?flower
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Post  Marc Iverson Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:36 pm

Keep a fresh bowl of water nearby, maybe? It sure attracts the bees around here. I practically get swarmed when I put one out.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:13 pm

Good point, Marc.  I think since I have the pool, I have always thought there was enough water.   I think the butterflies and bees, etc. avoid it due to the chemicals... I am going to do a shallow water oasis for birds, bees, butterflies, in my perennial bed, which is out front away from the pool.  This bowl will replace my ornamental but non-functional decorative sundial that serves no real purpose!
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Post  landarch Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:41 pm

Borage and Walkers Low Catmint are currently covered in bees (bumble and honey) at both my garden locations.

Here's a good site for butterfly plantings...some plants are specific to adults...other plants may help feed caterpillars.

I know I find swallowtail caterpillars on my carrot plants each year...and I also plant several milkweed types (marsh, butterfly, Mexican whorled, scarlet).  Once your plants bloom and set a seed pod, harvest and grow all you want the following year.
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Post  AtlantaMarie Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:17 am

Parsley is a good attractor for monarch (?) caterpillars.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:55 am

Landarch, I actually planted a Walkers Low Catmint this year, has'nt bloomed though.  I will put some Borage in.  Thanks!  AtlantaMarie, I will put some parsley in as well!


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Post  Scorpio Rising Thu Jun 18, 2015 7:57 am

Landarch, I can't see your link...
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Post  Goosegirl Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:02 am

I had some milkweed sprout as volunteers several years ago, and have been spreading it through my perennial beds as much as I can each year.  The house across the street from us used to have over 30 trees (large corner lot) and it was on the path of the Monarch Migration.  A gorgeous sight to see!  Unfortunately, the trees, little by little, all had to be cut down due to Dutch Elm Disease.  The trees that were not affected were cut down by the new owners.  I have no idea if the Monarchs perch in another yard in town now, or if they just skip this locale.
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Post  landarch Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:16 am

sorry about that...

http://www.ourhabitatgarden.org/creatures/butterflies-young-hosts.html
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Post  Scorpio Rising Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:31 pm

Goosegirl wrote:I had some milkweed sprout as volunteers several years ago, and have been spreading it through my perennial beds as much as I can each year.  The house across the street from us used to have over 30 trees (large corner lot) and it was on the path of the Monarch Migration.  A gorgeous sight to see!  Unfortunately, the trees, little by little, all had to be cut down due to Dutch Elm Disease.  The trees that were not affected were cut down by the new owners.  I have no idea if the Monarchs perch in another yard in town now, or if they just skip this locale.
What a shame .  Their habitat is disappearing really fast unfortunately.  I would have loved to see that!
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Post  FeedMeSeeMore Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:18 pm

Marc Iverson wrote:Keep a fresh bowl of water nearby, maybe?  It sure attracts the bees around here.  I practically get swarmed when I put one out.
Good tip worth trying.
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Post  Windmere Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:03 pm

I noticed a honeybee on one of my cosmos flowers this morning.  It was the first honeybee I'd seen all season (we have bumblebees galore).  Our cosmos make nice background plants, so if you have some rear space, that might be a good choice.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:59 am

Received 6 swamp milkweed (Asclepias incarnata) transplants in the mail yesterday from Rose Franklin's Perennials, they were in great shape.  4 pink, 2 white.  Now where to plant them!?  At least they won't mind the rain!Wink
 Landarch, great article, thanks.  Had no idea about all the trees that butterflies rely on!


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Post  Marc Iverson Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:00 pm

Scorpio Rising wrote:Good point, Marc.  I think since I have the pool, I have always thought there was enough water.   I think the butterflies and bees, etc. avoid it due to the chemicals... I am going to do a shallow water oasis for birds, bees, butterflies, in my perennial bed, which is out front away from the pool.  This bowl will replace my ornamental but non-functional decorative sundial that serves no real purpose!

It's important to have rocks or something like that breaking the surface so that the bees can walk on them to the edge of the water and drink. Otherwise they sometimes drown. We used to have a pool and often found dead bees in it, and I started collecting a few dead bees in my water bowls before I started putting rocks in and the occasional stick in them.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:51 pm

Makes sense, Marc, and I would not have thought of it.  Will do just that!
PS...saw honey bees on my Zinnias today!  And buzzing about the Buddleia
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Post  Scorpio Rising Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:54 pm

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Oh my gosh, I am so happy! My Asclepias incarnata is blooming...look really carefully there for the tiny pink florets being completely upstaged by the annuals in the background....

No such prospects on the Asclepias syriaca, but I can wait.... cheers
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Post  Windmere Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:57 pm

That's awseom Scorpio.  I've got two that came up (orange kind).  I'm planning on planting many this fall.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:11 pm

Windmere wrote:That's awseom Scorpio.  I've got two that came up (orange kind).  I'm planning on planting many this fall.

I am jealous, Windmere! I couldn't get my hands on the tuberosa variety to save my life! I even had my nursery people trying to find it....no go.

I have seen many butterflies on my loosestrifes, Buddleia, and flitting about the echinacea, and thymes. And some Monarchs!
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Post  Windmere Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:06 pm

The ones I have I planted from seeds I bought from Everwilde Farms.  I planted a bunch in very inhospitable areas, and only two came up (I figured I'd have low results, so I'm happy to have the two).
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Post  Scorpio Rising Thu Jul 30, 2015 9:22 am

I would be too! I really didn't expect any of these to bloom this year, they were really small when I got them, I mean like 4 to 6 inches tall! At least I can see what the pink swamp variety looks like!
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Post  Scorpio Rising Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:52 am

OK, question; 2 of my 5 syriaca types are like laying on the ground at the stalk, not growing straight up. Do nothing? Cover the laying section to see if it roots? Cut back in spring hard to see if I can get a more upright habit?
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Post  Windmere Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:05 pm

Hey there Scorpio.  I'm afraid I don't know the answers to the questions you raised in your previous post. 

However, there last two or three days I've had a visitor that might make you smile:'

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He just would not stay still, so it was very hard to capture any shot.  I wish I could have gotten one with his wings open, but he wasn't cooperating.  Oh well, I like this shot just the same.
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Post  Scorpio Rising Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:48 pm

Me too, Windmere, he is so pretty ! Gulf Fritillary?
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Post  Scorpio Rising Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:49 pm

Nice shot, is he on a zinnia?
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Post  Windmere Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:13 am

He sure does look like a Gulf Frittilary!  Yep, that's a zinnia.
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