Determinate Tomatoes - when are they done?

landarch Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:45 am

triple digit temps in early/ mid August realy shut my tomatoes down, but now new growth and blooms abound with cooler weather. When do you decide to give up on determinate tomatoes to make room in the fall garden? The first frost date in my area is 10/11.

Can someone describe what to do to get the most out of indeterminate tomatoes as fall approaches - I know certain stems need to be pruned to direct nutrients where neded to get the last tomatoes done before frost. How many weeks before first frost should one start to prepare for this?

CapeCoddess Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:09 pm

And when do we lop their heads off?

CC

Hoggar Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:19 pm

If they have fruit you can start pruning them and top them off to
stunt the growth of the plant. Here is a video that covers it,
it will work for caged toms as well.
I let my Toms grow right up to the first frost then I pull them
and hang the whole plant tomatoes roots and all upside down
in the mud room and let them ripen on the vine. Last year we had
tomatoes into January.
This year I'm starting a batch for the green house, we will see how that goes.

How To Prune Tomatoes

**camprn** Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:45 pm

The care and pruning of determinate tomatoes is different than for indeterminate tomatoes.

quiltbea Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:48 pm

I know that determinates are supposed to have a flush of harvest and then slow down and stop, but my Oregon Spring toms were harvested in the summer and I forgot to pull out the plants a couple years ago. In October, they were producing another crop of tomatoes. If my season here in Maine were a few weeks longer before frost, I could have had a 2nd harvest.
Determinate Tomatoes - when are they done? 10-02-13

Determinate Tomatoes - when are they done? 10-02-13

The Oregon Springs with new green toms and new blossoms on Oct 2nd.

BeetlesPerSqFt Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:39 am

This my first year growing some determinate tomatoes, so I'm going to bump this thread.
Those of you who grow determinate tomatoes: I know it likely varies from year to year with different weather, and different varieties and all, but when is their first flush typically complete? Number weeks after transplanting out would be easiest for me to translate, but any data you have would help. I'm growing New Yorker, Bellestar, and "42 days".

quiltbea Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:48 pm

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This year all my tomatoes are in containers due to moving from the country. Above I have Patio, 2 Better Bush and 1 Red Pride in pots. The Patio has blossoms today.
That's my constant companion, my nearly 12-yr old Pembroke Corgi, Penny.

BeetlesPerSqFt Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:52 pm

Thanks! So perhaps days to maturity from transplanting plus 56 more days is what I should use. That's about 17 weeks for New Yorker and Bellestar and puts me ... at my last frost date. That would imply that in my area, determinate tomatoes would yield all season, same as indeterminate. That's counter-intuitive. I was growing some determinates hoping to squeeze a few more fall squares in, albeit probably something frost tolerant, but it doesn't look like that will work here without starting much sooner than I managed this year.

I'm glad you can still garden in containers, and that you have such a nice plant-inspecting companion!

BeetlesPerSqFt Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:50 pm

BeetlesPerSqFt wrote:Thanks! So perhaps days to maturity from transplanting plus 56 more days is what I should use. That's about 17 weeks for New Yorker and Bellestar and puts me ... at my last frost date. That would imply that in my area, determinate tomatoes would yield all season, same as indeterminate. That's counter-intuitive. I was growing some determinates hoping to squeeze a few more fall squares in, albeit probably something frost tolerant, but it doesn't look like that will work here without starting much sooner than I managed this year.

I'm glad you can still garden in containers, and that you have such a nice plant-inspecting companion!

*first frost date, not last! I'm apparently still stuck on thinking about spring plantings.

CitizenKate Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:38 pm

I've been growing Celebrities and Bush Early Girls. I usually get the majority of my yields from these plants in mid-late July (here, they go out the last week of April or first week of May). Then there are stragglers that come in during the next few weeks.

When the weather starts to cool again, they start putting out more new foliage and setting a bunch more fruit. I just let them continue, until we reach a point in the season where any fruit that sets will have little chance of reaching maturity before the first frost. After that, I start pinching off any new blossoms, to help encourage the existing fruit to finish up before it gets too cold.

Other than that, I don't much pruning, and no suckering or topping of determinate plants during the season. I trim off a few branches to keep the plant out of the dirt, allow more air circulation, or remove dead or diseased portions.

BeetlesPerSqFt Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:07 pm

CitizenKate wrote:I've been growing Celebrities and Bush Early Girls. I usually get the majority of my yields from these plants in mid-late July (here, they go out the last week of April or first week of May). Then there are stragglers that come in during the next few weeks.

When the weather starts to cool again, they start putting out more new foliage and setting a bunch more fruit. I just let them continue, until we reach a point in the season where any fruit that sets will have little chance of reaching maturity before the first frost. After that, I start pinching off any new blossoms, to help encourage the existing fruit to finish up before it gets too cold.

Other than that, I don't much pruning, and no suckering or topping of determinate plants during the season. I trim off a few branches to keep the plant out of the dirt, allow more air circulation, or remove dead or diseased portions.

Thanks, Kate! I have to wait until mid-May to transplant here, and late May is better/safer, unless I use WallOWaters. I have them, but things just didn't work as planned this year, so I've gotten my plants in late and lanky. A lot of locals seem to wait until Memorial Day to transplant their tomatoes.

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