Hydrogen Peroxide

Been reading about hydrodgen peroxide uses in the garden and thought it so interesting i had to share wtih other organic gardeners.

link: http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/peroxide-garden.html

it makes a lot of sense and i'll be trying this out when i do my seed starting - as that'll be first opportunity to utilize and test out some of this information.

My understanding, and this could be faulty, is that when H2O2 is used as an antiseptic it's action, while releasing O2 that may be beneficial, is actually causing disruption of cell membranes and there is no discrimination between good cells and bad cells, thus it could very well destroy beneficial bacteria and other organisms as well as new cell growth in wounds. I think I would like to see some studies regarding some of these claims. Sounds like another project for winter.

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Here is an interesting thread from another garden forum which speaks of H2O2.

I started my 1st SFG a week or so ago and after a few days immediately lost four cucumber transplants. Before reading the forum, I went a bought four more replacements and planted them. They too started to look sick.

So I searched the forum and learned that cucumber transplants do poorly compared to seeds. I also found the information on Hydrogen Peroxide mixed with water. I immediately mixed up 1/2 cup of 3% H2O2 with a gallon on water. I'm impressed! I've watered twice in that last four days with the mix and the cucumbers look extremely healthy now! Last cucumbers would have done been dead by now.

What does H2O2 do for them? I'm glad you are seeing some success!

Could it have been they were simply in shock? When you pulled them, were the roots dead? I've replanted a number of things, had it go into shock (a dead faint, as I call it). I give them a hair cut (remove the wilted leaves, leaving any new growth that may show) and let them recover.

It's worked like a charm so far!

AVa

AvaDGardner wrote:What does H2O2 do for them? I'm glad you are seeing some success!

Could it have been they were simply in shock? When you pulled them, were the roots dead? I've replanted a number of things, had it go into shock (a dead faint, as I call it). I give them a hair cut (remove the wilted leaves, leaving any new growth that may show) and let them recover.

It's worked like a charm so far!

AVa

The H2O2 mixed with water is like rainwater. It also removes the chlorine from tap-water.

I found the below information on another site. I won't post the link because I'm not sure if links are allowed on this forum.

"Peroxide works by releasing oxygen. It acts as an oxygen supplement for
plants. It seems to really support both good health and strong growth
for plants"

Evidently hydroponic growers rely on H2O2 too.

to the forum!

In about 5 days you'll be able to post links.

One work around is to NOT post the header "www." Readers can cut & paste.

Great to know about removing chlorine.

Ava

the organic farmers I know in Europe and in Canada use H2O2 in the animal's water to improve their health, and with cows it increases their milk yield, and they use it with the crops for the same reasons.
Google H2O2 Gardening Bill Munro. I found a very useful article from Bill Munro, who actually took H2O2 medicinally and cured himself of cancer after the doctors had told him it was terminal!

I think the reason that the beneficial properties of H2O2 are not so well known is because none of the chemical companies can make any money from it and so they don't advertise it.

elaine.in.spain wrote:the organic farmers I know in Europe and in Canada use H2O2 in the animal's water to improve their health, and with cows it increases their milk yield, and they use it with the crops for the same reasons.
Google H2O2 Gardening Bill Munro. I found a very useful article from Bill Munro, who actually took H2O2 medicinally and cured himself of cancer after the doctors had told him it was terminal!

I think the reason that the beneficial properties of H2O2 are not so well known is because none of the chemical companies can make any money from it and so they don't advertise it.

I would still like to see some scientifically conducted study results about it's use in the garden and such.

camprn wrote:My understanding, and this could be faulty, is that when H2O2 is used as an antiseptic it's action, while releasing O2 that may be beneficial, is actually causing disruption of cell membranes and there is no discrimination between good cells and bad cells, thus it could very well destroy beneficial bacteria and other organisms as well as new cell growth in wounds.

This is my understanding also. I actually experienced this when treating a wound once. I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't heal until I found that I was killing the good guys. I never used it again for that purpose.
CC

I do a lot of wound care and although there was a time we did use it, it is no longer used because it is toxic to the good cells.
That being said, it does work great on swimmer ear....

I would not mind trying the strong stuff on weeds though, persistant weeds that I am pulling out over and over again.
good article, I did not end up with any real diseases in my garden this year, or at least very few.... but will keep it in mind.

I revised my planting plan, organized seeds for my fall garden and picked up popsicle sticks to mark my plants. All for naught! And I'm one day closer to the first frost.

I am glad of the light, steady soaking rain we're getting, but I was soooo ready to get my hands into the dirt and compost to my plots today.  Instead, I opened the compost barrels to gather the free moisture.

I took a walk out to the SFG and things are looking better. I don't know if it is the hydrogen peroxide, the rain, or both. The amount of white spotting seems down, so my fingers are crossed. Does anyone know if I am supposed to reapply the peroxide after rain?

Apparently plants generate hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) when they are attacked.

This was summarized in Hydrogen peroxide is generated systemically in plant leaves by wounding and systemin via the octadecanoid pathway.  Martha Orozco-Cardenas and Clarence A. Ryan. Published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.  May 25, 1999. vol. 96 no. 11
http://www.pnas.org/content/96/11/6553.full

"The wound-generated H2O2 in the [plant] veins also could have a defense role against bacteria, fungi, or viruses as they invade leaves wounded by herbivores. The elevated H2O2 levels also may potentiate the plants’ defense responses against invading pathogens, in which {reactive oxygen species] ROS play an important role. The presence of H2O2 in the plant in response to herbivory, before the pathogen invasion, could be advantageous because timing of the induction of defense responses can be an important factor in the success or failure of plants to defend against pathogen attacks (26)."

It was also interesting to learn that after wounding, some plants synthesize their own salicylic acid (aspirin).  Amazing! Our veggies clean their wounds and then take two aspirin until the gardener comes in the morning.

It was also interesting to learn that after wounding, some plants synthesize their own salicylic acid (aspirin). Amazing! Our veggies clean their wounds and then take two aspirin until the gardener comes in the morning.


  

Kay

http://www.epa.gov/opp00001/chem_search/reg_actions/registration/fs_PC-000595_30-Jan-02.pdf

Re: Hydrogen peroxide in the garden

 For a moment I thought someone was having a BLOND moment in their garden , till I read the link    .

Over here you're likely to get your collar felt by the long arm of the law if you start trying to buy bottles of strong solution Hydrogen Peroxide.
As it is what our home grown terrorists used in the explosives on the London buses & underground & an attempted explosive device that thankfully failed to fully detonate in a guys underpants whilst he was on a flight a few years ago .

A quick dip or spray with normal sodium hypochlorite unscented household bleach at a couple of drops per litre is  sufficient to sterilize most gardening things for a few days .

Nonna posted this in the Straw Bale Gardening post and I'm thinking she meant to post it in this one so I've copied and pasted it  

Nonna.PapaVinoHere on our Yankton Mountain farm outside St. Helens, Oregon, we keep hydrogen peroxide and baking soda on hand for use if, actually when, we have a skunk spray: a dog, human pant leg, wood pile, etc.  Mixed like this: 
 

In a plastic bucket (not metal), mix the following ingredients thoroughly: 

 

1 quart of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide 

1/4 cup of baking soda 

1 tablespoon of liquid dishwashing soap (Ivory is recommended)

 

For very large pets you can double the recipe (recommended) or you can add one quart of lukewarm tap water to provide complete coverage.

 

Wash your dog thoroughly, working the solution deep into the fur. Make sure you really saturate the areas where she took the direct hits. Your nose knows. 

 

Skunks usually aim for the face, but try to keep the solution out of her eyes, as it can sting. Keeping a bottle of pure water nearby to rinse the eyes is a good idea.

 

Leave the solution on for at least 5 minutes or until the odor is gone. You may need to rinse and repeat with some of the more stinky areas. 

 

After you’re done, thoroughly rinse your pet with lukewarm water. 

 

Pour the remaining solution down the drain while running water.

Nonna

 

The 3 threads on hydrogen peroxide have been combined. Thanks CN and SR.

sanderson wrote:The 3 threads on hydrogen peroxide have been combined.  Thanks CN and SR.

I haven't been on the Forum since Thanksgiving due to hosting a family reunion and the following decompression and recuperation! It's good to be back.

sanderson wrote:I haven't been on the Forum since Thanksgiving due to hosting a family reunion and the following decompression and recuperation!  It's good to be back.

Chropractic decompression?

No, I meant getting over the high level of activity from the reunion!

sanderson wrote:  No, I meant getting over the high level of activity from the reunion!

OOPS, LOL