Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]
What to use for mulch in South West desert Toplef10What to use for mulch in South West desert 1zd3ho10

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.

What to use for mulch in South West desert I22gcj10What to use for mulch in South West desert 14dhcg10

[/td][/tr][/table]

Join the forum, it's quick and easy

Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]
What to use for mulch in South West desert Toplef10What to use for mulch in South West desert 1zd3ho10

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.

What to use for mulch in South West desert I22gcj10What to use for mulch in South West desert 14dhcg10

[/td][/tr][/table]
Square Foot Gardening Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» N & C Midwest: Nov. Dec. 2024
by Scorpio Rising Today at 8:23 pm

» Butterbaby Hybrid Squash (Butternut)
by Scorpio Rising Today at 8:19 pm

» Indoor Lighting for Kitchen Herbs & Lettuce
by OhioGardener 11/22/2024, 6:58 pm

» Catalog season has begun!
by OhioGardener 11/22/2024, 3:35 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by AtlantaMarie 11/22/2024, 4:13 am

» Interesting Marketing for Compost
by OhioGardener 11/21/2024, 7:29 pm

» How does green turn to brown?
by OhioGardener 11/21/2024, 4:58 pm

» Ohio Gardener's Greenhouse
by OhioGardener 11/21/2024, 12:16 pm

» Tree roots, yeeessss.....
by sanderson 11/20/2024, 2:21 am

» The SFG Journey-Biowash
by has55 11/19/2024, 7:37 pm

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by OhioGardener 11/19/2024, 8:27 am

» Cooked worms?
by KiwiSFGnewbie 11/19/2024, 1:04 am

» New SFG gardener in Auckland
by KiwiSFGnewbie 11/16/2024, 11:25 pm

» Kiwi's SFG Adventure
by KiwiSFGnewbie 11/12/2024, 7:10 pm

» Thanksgiving Cactus
by OhioGardener 11/12/2024, 5:40 pm

» Need Garden Layout Feedback
by markqz 11/9/2024, 9:16 pm

» Thai Basil
by Scorpio Rising 11/8/2024, 8:52 pm

» How best to keep a fallow SFG bed
by KiwiSFGnewbie 11/8/2024, 8:11 pm

» Preserving A Bumper Tomato Harvest with Freezing vs Canning
by plantoid 11/7/2024, 11:36 am

» Mark's first SFG
by sanderson 11/6/2024, 11:51 pm

» What Have You Picked From Your Garden Today
by OhioGardener 11/5/2024, 2:29 pm

» Greetings from Southeastern Wisconsin
by sanderson 11/5/2024, 2:01 pm

» Spinning Compost Bin-need some ideas
by rtfm 11/2/2024, 7:49 pm

» Growing fruit trees in Auckland
by OhioGardener 10/31/2024, 4:23 pm

» Vermiculite -- shipping sale through 10/31/2024
by markqz 10/30/2024, 2:27 pm

» N & C Midwest: October 2024
by Scorpio Rising 10/30/2024, 10:38 am

» Old Mulch and Closing Beds for Winter
by sanderson 10/26/2024, 11:00 pm

» Hello from Land of Umpqua, Oregon Zone 8b
by sanderson 10/25/2024, 3:14 pm

» Hello everyone!
by SFGHQSTAFF 10/24/2024, 3:22 pm

» Senior Gardeners
by sanderson 10/23/2024, 6:09 pm

Google

Search SFG Forum

What to use for mulch in South West desert

+5
TheJH
SirTravers
duckycards
Retired Member 1
janetgouvas
9 posters

Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  janetgouvas 4/24/2010, 12:36 pm

I know I need to mulch or I'm going to lose plants to the heat. I'm already planning to put up some shade fabric over some of my plants. I have tomatoes, onions, peppers, eggplant, green beans and summer squash. What is the best mulch to use? Won't it eventually mix in with the garden soil and does that matter?

What are you Phx. area gardeners using?

Janet
Surprise, Az.
avatar
janetgouvas

Female Posts : 69
Join date : 2010-03-12
Location : Surprise, Arizona

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  Retired Member 1 4/24/2010, 2:18 pm

We seem to be a bit divided on the idea of using mulch. Here's a couple of threads you might want to peruse:

https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/general-sfg-talk-f5/what-do-you-use-for-mulch-in-your-sfg-t917.htm?highlight=mulch

https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/lower-south-f10/mulch-t892.htm?highlight=mulch

I used cypress mulch in my regular "dirt" SFG, but realised I didn't want to use that in the new SFG with Mel's mix, so I've decided to use a mix of shredded leaves and pineneedles which in time will break down and become compost for next year.
avatar
Retired Member 1

Female Posts : 904
Join date : 2010-03-03
Location : USA

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  janetgouvas 4/24/2010, 9:36 pm

Thanks, that was helpful. I think I'll look for some leaf mulch since I don't have any leaves of my own. If it works out I'll save leaves for mulch next year.
Janet
Surprise, Ariz.
avatar
janetgouvas

Female Posts : 69
Join date : 2010-03-12
Location : Surprise, Arizona

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty How about compost for mulch?

Post  duckycards 4/26/2010, 1:39 am

I'm a SFG newbie. The new SFG book DOES recommend heavy mulching for some plants but it doesn't provide any guidance about WHAT to use. I don't see how I some of the items that are recommended for mulching can be used in SFG without severely altering the composition of the Mel's Mix. I've been Googling the issue and was surprised to see that compost is recommended by some to use as a mulch. Does anyone here have experience using compost in that way? I'd like to try using some of my coarser home-made compost for mulching my veggies. Any comments would be very much appreciated! Smile I'm located in the NM desert, about 50 miles South of Albuquerque on the East slope of the Rio Grande Valley.
avatar
duckycards

Male Posts : 8
Join date : 2010-04-26
Age : 95
Location : Central New Mexico Desert

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Dilemma resolved! :)

Post  duckycards 4/26/2010, 4:58 pm

Well, folks, after further Google research, I think I've stumbled on the solution to my mulching dilemma. It really was a serious dilemma for a newbie gardener like myself. Mel definitely recommends rather heavy mulching for some crops in the new SFG system, but he does not elaborate or recommend specific types of mulch. Among the products I've seen recommended for garden mulching I was drawn to the idea of using compost (see my yesterday's post). However, I didn't like the idea of upsetting the balance of ingredients in my Mel's Mix, which seems to be rather critical. Further research revealed a couple additional products which are commonly recommended for garden mulching: Peat moss and vermiculite. Those ingredients are fully compatible with SFG soil but, again, I didn't want to add any of them alone for fear of messing up the delicate balance of my Mel's Mix. Then I discovered that several experts recommend mixing mulch products to get the combined benefits. Well, that seemed like a possible solution to my problem: Why not mix compost, peat moss and vermiculite, perhaps in equal proportions, and use that for mulch...HEY, WAIT A MINUTE.... THAT'S MEL'S MIX!!! Dilemma solved: My veggies are already surrounded by three of the commonly recommended mulch products so further mulching seems rather redundant, don't you think? LOL! Now my challenge is just to keep my veggies sufficiently watered and, when necessary, shaded. Smile

Ducky
avatar
duckycards

Male Posts : 8
Join date : 2010-04-26
Age : 95
Location : Central New Mexico Desert

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty what do you use for mulch?

Post  janetgouvas 4/27/2010, 12:03 pm

Well, LOL, that is sort of what I did end up doing. At least temporarily. Especially around the squash and tomatoes. I thought they needed more depth anyway. I think I'll continue to add more here and there whenever it looks like it might help each individual plant. In the meantime I'll still keep looking for that magic mulch! What to use for mulch in South West desert Icon_wink
Janet
Surprise, Az.
avatar
janetgouvas

Female Posts : 69
Join date : 2010-03-12
Location : Surprise, Arizona

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty ditto

Post  SirTravers 4/28/2010, 8:15 am

I have to say ditto on this. I just kept my boxes right up beside my house and just used the mix without anything on top. It seems to stay put as long as i keep it moist. The things ya learn as ya go....
avatar
SirTravers

Male Posts : 327
Join date : 2010-03-01
Age : 51
Location : Hobbs New MExico, Zone 7A/7B

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  TheJH 4/28/2010, 9:03 am

I mulch my toms and isles with shredded pine bark that i get for $30 a truck load. I like to mulch toms to keep soil off the lower leaves. Also half of my toms are in 10 gallon white grow bags and it helps keep the soil moist.
avatar
TheJH

Posts : 12
Join date : 2010-04-05
Location : NC, zone 7B

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  ASFx 5/8/2010, 9:32 pm

Here in Las Vegas, i've found that the absolute best thing to use for mulch is silver reflective film (mylar mulch). Just use earth staples to pin it onto the soil, or simply place rocks or bricks in the corners to hold it down. You can get this in many different forms. If you can't find it at your local nursery, you can use emergency blankets (individually packed or in perforated rolls), like the ones located here: http://www.shop.meyerscustomsupply.com/category.sc?categoryId=4

There are multiple benefits to using a reflective mulch here in the desert.

-It does not absorb heat. Light is reflected away to keep the soil and root systems nice and cool.
-Much less watering is required due to significantly reduced evaporation.
-It reflects full spectrum light back up into the foliage of the plants, increasing overall yield.
-It confuses many pests including aphids. Gardens that make use of reflective mulch here are mostly pest free for the majority of the year.
-You can feel free to let the plants sprawl on top of the reflective mulch without fear of it getting diseased from too much contact with the soil.

Honestly, now that i've learned about using reflective mulch and saw how much it really helps me, i wouldn't consider using anything else.
avatar
ASFx

Male Posts : 44
Join date : 2010-04-16
Age : 42
Location : Las Vegas, NV - Zone 8a

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  uintahiker 5/9/2010, 1:30 am

I would never have thought about using the mylar for mulching. I would have thought it would cook the plants to have it on them. I am getting me some and going to try it out. I can't wait to see how cool it looks to have shiny gardens. I might have to string some christmas lights up just to watch them reflect off the new mulch What to use for mulch in South West desert Icon_biggrin
avatar
uintahiker

Posts : 3
Join date : 2010-05-09
Location : Utah

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  ASFx 5/9/2010, 1:46 am

I also thought it might cook the plants at first (tin foil does), but mylar is much different. Reflective mylar is the next step up from using the red mulch for tomatoes and peppers which is also popular. The red mulch reflects light in the red spectrum back up into the plants which helps during the flowering stage. Reflective mylar mulch reflects full spectrum light though, so it helps at all stages of growth.

I learned the trick from "The Tomato Lady" here in Las Vegas. She's well known here and has several books on gardening in Las Vegas. I've been to a few of her free seminars at the local nursery here, and she has quite a few nice tricks. She also uses Netafim subsurface irrigation with emitters every 12 inches. The tubing runs about 2 inches under the soil. This helps to get water right into the root zone, and also keeps the tubing out of the way for the mulch.

She plants indeterminate tomatoes every two feet, and just lets them sprawl right on top of the mulch instead of staking. By planting them close, they help keep each other cool in the hottest summer months since they're not so high up. Even when it's 120 degrees out, it stays about 75 degrees under the foliage near the soil line.

As for peppers, she will transplant them three at a time from their 4 inch pots into a single large hole in a triangle shape. This also helps to keep them nice and cool, and you can leave a foot between each set of 3.
avatar
ASFx

Male Posts : 44
Join date : 2010-04-16
Age : 42
Location : Las Vegas, NV - Zone 8a

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  Chopper 5/9/2010, 2:00 am

What about watering with the mylar mulch on? Doesn't it prevent water from reaching the soil?
avatar
Chopper

Female Posts : 2464
Join date : 2010-05-05
Age : 69
Location : Warner Springs, CA USDA Zone 8a, Sunset Zone 7 (I think)

http://thezimmermannfamilytoo.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  ASFx 5/9/2010, 2:04 am

It's best if you're using drip irrigation. If you want to water by hand, you will just have to cut the holes around the plant a bit larger so you can water each hole. With drip irrigation, I don't cut a circle into the mylar film. I just cut an X where i want to put each plant, then just lift the flaps up, put the plant in the ground, then let the flaps lay back down onto the soil.
avatar
ASFx

Male Posts : 44
Join date : 2010-04-16
Age : 42
Location : Las Vegas, NV - Zone 8a

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty What to use for mulch in the Southwest desert

Post  janetgouvas 5/9/2010, 9:57 am

This is terrific info! I can't wait to try it.

Janet
Surprise, Az.
avatar
janetgouvas

Female Posts : 69
Join date : 2010-03-12
Location : Surprise, Arizona

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  uintahiker 5/9/2010, 10:48 pm

Have you tried the mylar with other plants as well or just the maters? Cuc's and zuc's and some pumpkins are what I am working with.
avatar
uintahiker

Posts : 3
Join date : 2010-05-09
Location : Utah

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  schristi69 6/18/2010, 1:49 pm

I used the shredded redwood as mulch in my containers. Also saw shredded coconut husks. Might have to try those.
avatar
schristi69

Male Posts : 32
Join date : 2010-06-04
Location : Glendale, AZ Sunset zone 13, USDA zone 9b, AHS zone 11

Back to top Go down

What to use for mulch in South West desert Empty Re: What to use for mulch in South West desert

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum