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Post  Chopper 7/10/2010, 10:21 am

How tall do pea vines get?
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Post  Garden_State 7/10/2010, 10:25 am

Wondering the same thing. Starting to plan fall crops and figure out how to support pea vines.
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Post  boffer 7/10/2010, 10:35 am

My pole peas get to be 6-7 feet tall. I don't have a trellis method to recommend.
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Post  camprn 7/10/2010, 10:40 am

My Sugar Ann snap peas are a bush variety but they have grown between 4'-5' tall. I put up a 5' trellis. My Kentucky Wonder pole bean package info said they would grow to 8' & I put up a 10' trellis. Me thinks I needs to go to the store and buy a new ladder to get the beans. Shocked
Here is the over/under trellis style I used for all my vines. Pictured are cukes. If you go to the gallery you can get a much closer view.Pea Question Jul_0115
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Post  milaneyjane 7/10/2010, 1:46 pm

Mine are about 5 1/2 feet tall and out of trellis. I think that is the tallest I have grown them.
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Post  Chopper 7/10/2010, 3:52 pm

Thanks for the input. I have more bamboo than trellis - that may be the way to go for the peas as they are fairly light. Compared to a pumpkin, say. Pea Question Icon_smile I like the trellis pictured - very nice.
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Post  Megan 7/11/2010, 5:03 am

Maybe this is a silly question... but are your trellises clear of previous crops (cukes, tomatoes, pole beans, squash, etc.?) by the time you are planting fall peas? Or are you using different trellises? Or letting them "share"? :?:
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Post  camprn 7/11/2010, 11:39 am

I'm going to pull the previous crop, clear the squares of all debris, add compost then plant again at the same trellis. Unless someone suggests I need to do something else. Smile
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Post  Megan 7/11/2010, 11:40 am

camprn wrote:I'm going to pull the previous crop, clear the squares of all debris, add compost then plant again at the same trellis. Unless someone suggests I need to do something else. Smile

I was just curious because I don't see how any of my trellises are going to be clear in time for another crop....
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Post  camprn 7/11/2010, 11:48 am

Meg, when did you plant your spring peas? Are they still producing? I think that being in VA you should have no problem getting a good second crop. Very Happy
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Post  Megan 7/11/2010, 2:49 pm

camprn wrote:Meg, when did you plant your spring peas? Are they still producing? I think that being in VA you should have no problem getting a good second crop. Very Happy

Late April. And I got my first (and only) harvest a few days ago, a handful of peas... Sad I haven't torn the "vines" out yet but they are pretty pathetic.
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Post  camprn 7/11/2010, 4:23 pm

Yeah it's getting to warm now for the peas to tolerate. Suggestion: when you sow peas for the fall crop try putting 16 to a square. It seems like a lot, but probably not all will germinate & the peas will tolerate this close growth. You may have a much better harvest. Fingers crossed! Smile
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Post  Megan 7/11/2010, 4:29 pm

I'll try... thanks! Smile
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Post  ander217 7/12/2010, 8:11 am

Chopper, it depends on which variety you plant. There are dwarf, semi-dwarf, and tall varieties.

Lincoln and Little Marvel for example, are semi-dwarf and only reach three or four feet, while those tall big-seeded Alderman (formerly called Telephone) varieties can grow over seven feet or more. There are several commercial varieties such as Bingo which only reach about two feet high. I've heard there is a bush pea that only reaches 12", but I don't know the name of it.

Lincoln has been my standby for decades. My grandma's favorite was Little Marvel, and my mom preferred the small smooth-seeded, less sweet, early Alaska peas.
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Post  Megan 7/12/2010, 7:20 pm

ander217 wrote:Lincoln has been my standby for decades. My grandma's favorite was Little Marvel, and my mom preferred the small smooth-seeded, less sweet, early Alaska peas.

The Lincoln bombed for me, don't know why... but with the crazy spring we had, who knows. I'm going to try again this fall and next spring.
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Post  ander217 7/13/2010, 7:46 am

My Lincolns bombed this spring, too, Megan. No clue why. They grew so slowly that when they finally started blooming, the heat zapped 'em. I planted some in MM in boxes, and some were growing in raised beds in the ground, so I know it couldn't be blamed on a bad batch of MM. I got a handful of peas from each planting before the pods just started drying on the vines without making peas.

I've been wondering if my seed had been mislabeled. Once these finally started growing, they grew taller than any Lincolns I've ever raised. The pods looked more to me like peapods than shelling peas.

I have some of the same seed left, so I'll try another planting this fall and if it fails I'm ordering new seed next year from a different company. I've grown Lincolns for over 30 years and this was the first year I didn't get a bumper crop from them.
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Post  Megan 7/13/2010, 6:21 pm

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I have some of the same seed left, so I'll try another planting this fall and if it fails I'm ordering new seed next year from a different company. I've grown Lincolns for over 30 years and this was the first year I didn't get a bumper crop from them.

How tall did yours get? Mine got most of the way up a 4' tomato cage... I'll call it 30" without taking a tape measure to them. Maybe 36". The pods themselves have only a few peas in each one, though the peas seem full size. I am going to try them again in the fall if I can find a spare square for them.
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Post  quiltbea 7/14/2010, 12:34 am

My sugar snaps are over 7 feet tall right now. My fence posts and trellis are 7' tall and they are higher.
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This was taken on June 21 and they are taller and fuller now.
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Post  ander217 7/14/2010, 6:33 am

Megan wrote: How tall did yours get? Mine got most of the way up a 4' tomato cage... I'll call it 30" without taking a tape measure to them. Maybe 36".

Mine were from around three feet to probably nearly four feet high. In the past mine have usually run between two and three feet high. The pods didn't seem as long as usual, either, and they didn't have the flavor I expected.

Since this is my first year of SFG I'm glad I had that other planting in the raised bed, or I might have blamed their poor performance on Mel's Mix.

I also didn't use seed inoculant, so that might have made a difference, especially in Mel's Mix for the first time. If I can still find inoculant I plan to use it for the fall planting. If it makes a difference, I'll blame the spring failure on lack of inoculant. If they still do poorly, my best guess is I got mislabeled seed.
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Post  silverbug 7/14/2010, 7:40 am

I've ripped out all my peas now, since they were DONE...however, my sugar snap peas got to at least 6 feet this year and that's a new record for me. Didn't produce a whole lot, but that was ok. My daughter got a huge kick out of it, and I actually have more than we can eat from my CSA share.
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