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Post  Garden Angel on 6/29/2010, 11:40 pm

Does anyone use a green house in the Inland Empire? I haven't tried to grow in it yet cause I'm afraid it might be just too hot here now to start any seeds, does anyone out there have experience in growing seeds in a greenhouse in this area? I'm thinking maybe of trying the beginning of September for some fall crops.
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Post  Chopper on 6/30/2010, 12:18 am

Well. there are certainly dozens of greenhouses in the area. I think summer is too hot, but I was toying with the idea of a modified greenhouse for the winter. I think it is the perfect spot for a greenhouse.
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Post  Garden Angel on 6/30/2010, 2:50 pm

I'm glad someone to hear that someone is considering this , maybe I'm not to far off after all ! ha. I think the fall/winter season we could get away with starting seeds when it is suppose to be too early or when the frost comes, and maybe even growing some in the greenhouse , what do you think? it actually doesn't feel bad in mine now at night and the morn or late afternoon , it faces east/west. I don't know about you but the sun rises in front of our house and we get all the sun in the back till it goes down. I guess where you position it has alot to do with it but this is the only spot for us. I'd like to hear if you decide to try something !
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Post  Chopper on 6/30/2010, 3:58 pm

I will let you know. My backyard faces south so I am very lucky. I get sun all day. I look at Palomar Mountain from my balcony.

I think what I am considering may be more coldframe than greenhouse. But greenhouse is in the long term picture. I was thinking of covering one of the beds with plastic and starting seeds in peat pots in there so that the hardening off is easier. I am not sure if I can regulate the temp enough, but I think so. I just started thinking of this recently so do not have it completely fleshed out.
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Post  Garden Angel on 6/30/2010, 11:59 pm

Ok, if I understand you correctly then, for the cold frame you plan on erecting some sort of cover on a garden bed with plastic but you are concerned about how to regulate temperature?
I don't know the size of the bed but what has been working for me is an old frame of a patio cover, it's an "A" frame and sits on the ground and I cover it with row cover and fasten it with clothes pins. The ends are left open and the air blows through the ends and the row cover blows in the breeze but keeps the direct sun off while letting muted sunlight in. In the winter I will use plastic and maybe over the row cover also, especially when it rains hard.
All the cold frames I have seen I think have been solid walls and deep with a lid of glass or plastic and I think you can store cold sensitive plants in them over the winter.
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Post  Chopper on 7/1/2010, 12:22 am

No, what I am thinking of is more like yours. I have the frame in place and plan to use plastic.

This is now the herb bed. Either way this frame moves to any of the 4X4 beds pretty easily. I would cover that with plastic and use clips. I could provide various level of outside air depending on the weather.

The one on the left is what I am talking about:
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This is more of a close up but harder to see the PVC cover:
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Post  Garden Angel on 7/1/2010, 11:09 am

Oh I see , Its taller than I thought you were talking about , taller than mine, nice pictures , sorry I don't have acces to a camera yet . Have you been leaving you boxes uncovered ? I did at first and the plants were getting sun scald I think ? yours look good , even your grass looks green ! you haven't had a problem with direct sun ? we get intense heat here over by Lake Elsinore.
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Post  Chopper on 7/1/2010, 12:34 pm

I am not that far from you so I am surprised. No, I do not cover my boxes now. I get sun from sunup to sundown. The only shade are the plants in the boxes shading each other - which does happen. No sunscald so far. I have found this particular spring/early summer to be cooler than most - but it is early days. The box with the frame has herbs and they seem happy.

The first picture is from earlier in the season but the grass is still green - automatic watering; couldn't have anything green without it. Not as green as it was, though....
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My son helped me post this picture. You can see I have the box covered. It is an earlier picture also.
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Post  Chopper on 7/1/2010, 7:37 pm

Ah. I see. One of the things I love about SFG is he ability to put 2 10' pvc pipes so easily into the bed for a frame. Yours seems to be doing the job tho. Thanks for the pic - hard to describe. I don't see why that couldn't double for a greenhouse in the winter. Looks ideal.
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Post  Garden Angel on 7/1/2010, 10:27 pm

Thanks but I think it would be hard to get the plastic to fit tight enough to be effective and also I need to get in the sides to water and pick the veggies , it looks taller in the picture but I actually have to bend down to get inside. Hope to post one of my greenhouse sometime. Nice talking to you happy gardening !
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