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Kiwi's SFG Adventure
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
That is just priceless!
And thanks OG for the explanation
Definitely will remember the idea if I'm ever making lots of MM at one time...
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And thanks OG for the explanation
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Give the lady a pumpkin sticker! Dead on the money again, sandersonsanderson wrote:I don't think you need any shims for the bed to drain. Set the acrylic sheet down and set the bed on top. Try to fill it with the hose and you will see water running out between the plastic and the wood. You will have to line the interior with weed fabric to hold in the Mel's Mix.
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Thanks again for saving me from watching my precious MM draining away. That would have broken my heart after how hard it's proving to make. Batch 5 of 7 (we hope) this afternoon...
Yesterday I laid out the cardboard, put pavers around the outside, and spread out my (free!) woodchip -- to discover that I didn't have enough
![No](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/kopfschuettel.gif)
It was an amazing experience looking at the results. I'm deeply pragmatic -- I don't grow flowers except as companion plants -- this garden will be a "working garden". But standing there looking at it and mentally comparing how it would look without the perimeter materials.....this was beautiful! This was a real garden, not just a wooden box plonked on a lawn. (And the box is still empty!)
I'm deliberately not taking a photo until the woodchip is all down, so will post one later today -- I got more woodchip this morning.
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What I spent my Christmas Eve doing
Finally at the end of yesterday all my MM was made, so this morning before the heat got too bad I got it into the bed:
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2635](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2635.jpg)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2634](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2634.jpg)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2633](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2633.jpg)
I watered each of the 7 batches as they went in, and then the entire thing again about 3 hours later. Fingers crossed there's enough water in there for the transplants tomorrow evening.
It feels fabulous to finally get to this point!![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2635](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2635.jpg)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2634](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2634.jpg)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2633](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2633.jpg)
I watered each of the 7 batches as they went in, and then the entire thing again about 3 hours later. Fingers crossed there's enough water in there for the transplants tomorrow evening.
It feels fabulous to finally get to this point!
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Looking good! One of the advantages of those wood chips around the bed is that they are like a huge sponge when it rains -- they soak up and retain the moisture rather than letting it run off.
We won't be worrying about it getting too hot here today. It is currently -1ºF (-18ºC), with a projected high of 10ºF (-12ºC). Brrrrrrrrrrrr............
We won't be worrying about it getting too hot here today. It is currently -1ºF (-18ºC), with a projected high of 10ºF (-12ºC). Brrrrrrrrrrrr............
"In short, the soil food web feeds everything you eat and helps keep your favorite planet from getting too hot. Be nice to it." ~ Diane Miessler, "Grow Your Soil"
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Brrrr indeed! I've only ever skied in temperatures that low
In my case I don't think the woodchips retaining moisture will help (the bed is sitting on an acrylic panel to stop tree root invasion) but I guess it'll help with the cardboard breakdown. It sure does dry out quick -- I'd thought a good hosing after installation would have it softening nicely, but I had to repeat later that day (a hot sunny one) and even yesterday, after several days sitting under the woodchip I found some very dry patches. I'd figured once the woodchip was down it would keep the cardboard moist but it dried out from just a few non-rainy days.
![lots o](/users/2912/12/27/03/smiles/754074540.gif)
In my case I don't think the woodchips retaining moisture will help (the bed is sitting on an acrylic panel to stop tree root invasion) but I guess it'll help with the cardboard breakdown. It sure does dry out quick -- I'd thought a good hosing after installation would have it softening nicely, but I had to repeat later that day (a hot sunny one) and even yesterday, after several days sitting under the woodchip I found some very dry patches. I'd figured once the woodchip was down it would keep the cardboard moist but it dried out from just a few non-rainy days.
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The plants are in!
Well, the setup phase of my SFG adventure is at long last over. The grid is in, and so are the plants:
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2710.jpg)
I didn't realise until too late tonight that from this distance it's not possible to see them all!
Stoobie mistake. There are beans along the back, tomatoes in dead centre, marigolds in a row between tomatoes and beans, and chives around the tomatoes. In the very front there are some beetroot, with three currently-empty squares which will progressively contain beetroot also, and maybe some carrots. I'm also going to sow basil behind the tomatoes.
I'll try to post a more close-up photo tomorrow!
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2710](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2710.jpg)
I didn't realise until too late tonight that from this distance it's not possible to see them all!
![Embarassed](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
I'll try to post a more close-up photo tomorrow!
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There are worms in it!
I keep forgetting to tell you folks, but during the processing of my historical leaf mould last week while making my MM batches I saw not one, not two, but three worms! Very exciting
So, hopefully I won't have to buy in foreigners.
I also wonder whether some might arrive from the land around the bed, coming up through the cardboard and woodchip and then across the inch of acrylic panel and into the MM. Would be nice![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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I also wonder whether some might arrive from the land around the bed, coming up through the cardboard and woodchip and then across the inch of acrylic panel and into the MM. Would be nice
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Build it, and they will come.
"In short, the soil food web feeds everything you eat and helps keep your favorite planet from getting too hot. Be nice to it." ~ Diane Miessler, "Grow Your Soil"
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Way cool!
Is there some way to know that the numbers are increasing? I don't expect they'll want to be at the surface in the middle of summer???
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
I usually see them when I mix in more compost, or when it's been raining and raining.
Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Oh OK, so when I'm turning over the soil, that makes sense ![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Well done!
I grow "Aromas" because they produce all season long. Last year I still had fruit forming in May when I did the winterising haircut!!
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The first big storm
We have an ex-tropical cyclone moving in, with gales and heavy rain forecast for the next 48 hours. This morning I took the tulle off, and figured that was all I could do to prepare the garden. A quick check this afternoon told me I needed to do more -- my poor beans were obviously having the moisture sucked out of them by the wind (the rain having not yet begun).
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2716](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2716.jpg)
So, I folded the shadecloth in thirds, sewed it together, and tied it to a bunch of strong poles which I use to support my "breeding" lettuces once they get really tall. I've also given the beans a good watering (their second of the day), in case it helps. I love my MM -- it's great knowing I can't overwater!
Also extremely glad I took the time to screw clamps to the inside of the bed before installation: corners and midway along each side.
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2717](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2717.jpg)
And I just got inside before the rain began![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2716](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2716.jpg)
So, I folded the shadecloth in thirds, sewed it together, and tied it to a bunch of strong poles which I use to support my "breeding" lettuces once they get really tall. I've also given the beans a good watering (their second of the day), in case it helps. I love my MM -- it's great knowing I can't overwater!
Also extremely glad I took the time to screw clamps to the inside of the bed before installation: corners and midway along each side.
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 Img_2717](https://i.servimg.com/u/f87/20/45/38/79/img_2717.jpg)
And I just got inside before the rain began
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
May I have this photo for show and tell on other sites? Well done.
Just for future reference, you only need to slow down the wind. A single layer may have worked for that purpose. Burlap or any well ventilated material so that the wind can go through and not tear down the structure, but thick enough to slow the wind.
![Kiwi's SFG Adventure - Page 2 3170584802](/users/2912/12/27/03/smiles/3170584802.gif)
Just for future reference, you only need to slow down the wind. A single layer may have worked for that purpose. Burlap or any well ventilated material so that the wind can go through and not tear down the structure, but thick enough to slow the wind.
Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Goodness, I didn't think it was anywhere near that good!
But yes, I can email it if you like.
However, you may want to revise that opinion. This afternoon I looked out and counted the stakes....one...two...three......oops. The fourth one was nowhere to be seen; it had snapped at garden bed top level, and of course it was the one right next to the beans
Fortunately I had a further thick stake -- half an hour in the rain and wind....
-- but my hopes for the structure surviving the night are now significantly lower.
I suspect it's as you say, that I'm blocking too much wind -- the only reason I folded the shadecloth in thirds was that I didn't want to cut it, and even two thicknesses was going to be too tall!!!
We are at the start of our ex-TC season, so I will probably go out one day soon and get some real windbreak cloth.......and a few more stakes!
![Smile](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
However, you may want to revise that opinion. This afternoon I looked out and counted the stakes....one...two...three......oops. The fourth one was nowhere to be seen; it had snapped at garden bed top level, and of course it was the one right next to the beans
![No](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/kopfschuettel.gif)
Fortunately I had a further thick stake -- half an hour in the rain and wind....
![Rolling Eyes](https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif)
I suspect it's as you say, that I'm blocking too much wind -- the only reason I folded the shadecloth in thirds was that I didn't want to cut it, and even two thicknesses was going to be too tall!!!
We are at the start of our ex-TC season, so I will probably go out one day soon and get some real windbreak cloth.......and a few more stakes!
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
Maybe you can buy some itchy 44" burlap tomorrow/today ? And 4 poles a little longer than the width of the bed and some cotton twine. Strap them to the near tops of the upright poles creating a more wind resistant frame for the shade cloth or burlap.
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
My memory from research back in spring was that it's expensive here (surprise, surprise). But I didn't look into it carefully so maybe I missed something. Is it better than stuff sold expressly for making windbreaks?
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Re: Kiwi's SFG Adventure
I was thinking burlap from the fabric store or even the plant nursery. I looked at some of your fabric stores and couldn't find any. What about Etsy if shipping isn't crazy? https://www.etsy.com/nz/market/burlap_fabric
What about new or used wool sacks or coffee bean sacks, since you can sew.
What about new or used wool sacks or coffee bean sacks, since you can sew.
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