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jerusalem Artichokes question
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jerusalem Artichokes question
Has anyone grown these? And eaten them?
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
A friend grows them for her CSA. I was thinking of it because they are so hardy. They make a really pretty wild sunflower hedge and can be perennial. I would not put them in the SFG but in a dedicated area they can romp in. Try eating some first, they are supposed to be a good alternative starch for diabetics. We found them good tasting but huge gas makers, to the point of discomfort. In small amounts maybe we could learn to eat them and not explode. I am still thinking of growing some as an edible summer hedge/wind break that the sheep and horses could eat in the fall.
Turan- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Turan - if they are big gas makers, won't it hurt the sheep and horses as well?
Lee
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SwampCatNana- Posts : 237
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Age : 86
Location : Boston MA (Z6a)
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
I doubt it, their digestive systems are tailor made for eating more difficult to digest plants and they already eat up my sunflower plants in the fall. The sheep and horses would eat the plant growth, not the tubers. Bloat in sheep and horses is more linked to high nitrogen green foods than tougher stuff like this. The tubers are well known as a good food for man and beast, just some of us react more than others. It is sort of like beans (and beano might help), my DH loves old world beans but they have a very bad effect on his digestion, so I suspect he is just more sensative than a lot of people.SwampCatNana wrote:Turan - if they are big gas makers, won't it hurt the sheep and horses as well?
Lee
Turan- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
I would not plant them in my SFG. I would plant them elsewhere. They are quite prolific.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
I likely will not be able to eat them. After radiation I am unable to eat many of the veggies I have grown to love.
It they are gasiforous for most folks they will be especially hard on me.
I ordered them before I read much about them, I did read about the glycemic index part.
Now I am wondering what to do with them.
It they are gasiforous for most folks they will be especially hard on me.
I ordered them before I read much about them, I did read about the glycemic index part.
Now I am wondering what to do with them.
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Privacy hedge maybe? One that won't break your heart if a deer eats it.GWN wrote:
Now I am wondering what to do with them.
Turan- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Excellent! They really are a lovely sunflower.Turan wrote:Privacy hedge maybe? One that won't break your heart if a deer eats it.GWN wrote:
Now I am wondering what to do with them.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
so if I plant 5 of them along property line they will grow up into a hedge?
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Or a clump that will spread? My friend has a hedge of them along one border of her field, the bees love them, but she planted a lot, I suspect. Here is some growing guide for them I found~
Planting
Planting should be early in the spring, when the soil can be
satisfactorily worked. Later planting results in reduced yields.
Whole tubers or pieces of tubers that are no less than two ounces and
have two or three prominent buds should be planted. Smaller seed
pieces will reduce yields but larger seed pieces (over 2 oz) will not
significantly increase them. Do not allow cut seed pieces to dry
before planting. Plant 3 to 5 inches deep, in rows 36 to 42 inches
wide with 15 to 24 inches between plants.
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/hil-1-a.html
Planting
Planting should be early in the spring, when the soil can be
satisfactorily worked. Later planting results in reduced yields.
Whole tubers or pieces of tubers that are no less than two ounces and
have two or three prominent buds should be planted. Smaller seed
pieces will reduce yields but larger seed pieces (over 2 oz) will not
significantly increase them. Do not allow cut seed pieces to dry
before planting. Plant 3 to 5 inches deep, in rows 36 to 42 inches
wide with 15 to 24 inches between plants.
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/hil-1-a.html
Turan- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
If you want more of them run a rototiller through the roots, you'll get tons more.
http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/weedguide/singlerecord.asp?id=870
http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/weedguide/singlerecord.asp?id=870
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
If you want more of them run a rototiller through the roots, you'll get tons more.
Or else.... what to plant between you and the neighbour you are really annoyed with
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
I have these coming up all over my yard instead of where I planted them last year.....along a fence by a road. I thougt they'd make a good natural privacy fence, if nothing else. But, they are very invasive and the tiniest piece of root will form a new plant... I did till the soil right in front of them last fall, but did not see any roots or tubers when I did it.
They do make nice hardy long-lasting yellow flowers that are great for cutting. I'm just a bit discouraged because mine have crept a lot.
As for the tubers, they should be unearthed in late summer-early fall before the plants completely die back for the winter. I have heard they are delicious and are similar to artichokes in flavor...
They do make nice hardy long-lasting yellow flowers that are great for cutting. I'm just a bit discouraged because mine have crept a lot.
As for the tubers, they should be unearthed in late summer-early fall before the plants completely die back for the winter. I have heard they are delicious and are similar to artichokes in flavor...
MorningSong- Posts : 9
Join date : 2012-05-16
Age : 61
Location : Northern Italy
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
My favorite is still the sweet pickled one's my aunt used to make. My mother preferred them pickled with hot peppers.
Kay
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Join date : 2010-10-17
Age : 81
Location : wilmington, nc zone 8
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Morning song, what sort of gardening zone are you in there, where I live, it gets down to minus 25 celcius.But, they are very invasive and the tiniest piece of root will form a new plant.
I am thinking that in a colder climate they might be less aggressive?
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Hi GWN! I am in a 7A zone:
Temp min: -17.7°C to -15.0°C, Medium freeze: Oct 20 to Apr 25
I would think that the agressiveness (invasiveness) of a plant depends on it's DNA. I'd think that Jerusalem Artichokes might "suffer" in colder climates, in that it's tubers might not make it through a harsh winter, therefore it could appear less invasive. One would need to do a little research and see what temperature limits it can withstand.
Temp min: -17.7°C to -15.0°C, Medium freeze: Oct 20 to Apr 25
I would think that the agressiveness (invasiveness) of a plant depends on it's DNA. I'd think that Jerusalem Artichokes might "suffer" in colder climates, in that it's tubers might not make it through a harsh winter, therefore it could appear less invasive. One would need to do a little research and see what temperature limits it can withstand.
MorningSong- Posts : 9
Join date : 2012-05-16
Age : 61
Location : Northern Italy
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
Our winter can get to -30F during the winter and they are just as invasive here.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
OK I am convinced.Our winter can get to -30F during the winter and they are just as invasive here.
Perhaps I will plant them as a trial in an area where we are going to built a detached carport a year or so from now.
They seem more of a weapon..... I have heard where they can make it into Fuel.
Not sure whether it was globe artichokes or jerusalem ?
GWN- Posts : 2799
Join date : 2012-01-14
Age : 68
Location : british columbia zone 5a
Re: jerusalem Artichokes question
They also seed by the flowering. So if you don't want them spreading you also have to prune before the flowers seed!
CindiLou- Posts : 998
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Age : 65
Location : South Central Iowa, Zone 5a (20mi dia area in 5b zone)rofl...
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