High winds in Scotland UK

plantoid 12/8/2011, 1:01 pm

Spare a thought for the people up in central & Southern Scotland and the Scottish Isles tonight .
So far on the 17.45 hrs news they have been hit with winds of 165 miles per hour screaming in from the Arctic .

Not only do they have the wind damage to contend with the temperatures are set to drop well below freezing tonight as well .
Nearly 60,000 homes are without electrical power. The winds look set to carry on for another six or seven hours followed by snow and ice as the winds drop to a mere 80 miles per hour .

I bet the chill factor will be horrific .

**walshevak** 12/8/2011, 2:46 pm

OUCH!!!!!

**Kelejan** 12/8/2011, 3:51 pm

Plantoid, I bet you get some fall-out from that if the wind is from the north.

Keep warm and safe.

plantoid 12/8/2011, 4:05 pm

We might get some 60 mph tail end stuff and a lot of rain for the next 24 hrs.
Tonights temp forcaste is 2 oC which I think must be around 25 oF.
I've just gone around the bungalow and closed off all the nine trickle air vents as the " coolness " is starting to become noticeable .

We were hoping to take our caravan trailer 250 miles tomorrow from here in Ammanford South Wales to Peterborough East Anglia , 120 miles or so of it with the wind coming from our left side the rest with a tail wind
If it is really bad we won't bother going to see our extended families .
The pictures on the nine o'clock news are now showing 15 to 40 tonne trucks laid on their sides by the winds .
They have just shown an empty 60 seater school bus that was tossed over on to its side and then blown across an earth banked road cutting totally blocking the road.

boffer 12/8/2011, 4:29 pm

Your spelling of 'tonne' got me wondering if the difference between U.S. ton and British tonne was merely spelling, or actual weight. Both spelling and weight are different, but it's the fault of the hundredweight! Oy! silly me

The British ton is the long ton, which is 2240 pounds, and the U.S. ton is the short ton which is 2000 pounds.

Both tons are actually defined in the same way. 1 ton is equal to 20 hundredweight. It is just the definition of the hundredweight that differs between countries. In the U.S. there are 100 pounds in the hundredweight, and in Britain there are 112 pounds in the hundredweight. This causes the actual weight of the ton to differ between countries.

To distinguish between the two tons, the smaller U.S. ton is called short, while the larger British ton is called long.

There is also an third type of ton called the metric ton, equal to 1000 kilograms, or approximately 2204 pounds. The metric ton is officially called tonne. The SI standard calls it tonne, but the U.S. Government recommends calling it metric ton.

BackyardBirdGardner 12/8/2011, 5:11 pm

A Piteraq is a cold Katabatic wind which originates on the Greenlandic icecap and sweeps down to the east coast. Piteraqs are most common in the fall and winter. Wind speeds typically reach 50 to 80 m/s. This calculates out to 135 to 180 mph.

A friend of mine from Greenland used to mention such things and how they used to pop up with little to no warning and do crazy damage. Any chance this is related?

plantoid 12/14/2011, 7:43 pm

boffer wrote:Your spelling of 'tonne' got me wondering if the difference between U.S. ton and British tonne was merely spelling, or actual weight. Both spelling and weight are different, but it's the fault of the hundredweight! Oy!

The British ton is the long ton, which is 2240 pounds, and the U.S. ton is the short ton which is 2000 pounds.

Both tons are actually defined in the same way. 1 ton is equal to 20 hundredweight. It is just the definition of the hundredweight that differs between countries. In the U.S. there are 100 pounds in the hundredweight, and in Britain there are 112 pounds in the hundredweight. This causes the actual weight of the ton to differ between countries.

To distinguish between the two tons, the smaller U.S. ton is called short, while the larger British ton is called long.

There is also an third type of ton called the metric ton, equal to 1000 kilograms, or approximately 2204 pounds. The metric ton is officially called tonne. The SI standard calls it tonne, but the U.S. Government recommends calling it metric ton.

A tonne is 1000 kilogrammes or 2204 pounds which is also a short ton .
The UK has had the option of using metric or aviorpodrious ( spelling might be wrong ) weights for the last 40 years .
To me it makes no difference, I've been used to both systems for the last 50 years or so.

plantoid 12/14/2011, 7:46 pm

BackyardBirdGardner wrote:A Piteraq is a cold Katabatic wind which originates on the Greenlandic icecap and sweeps down to the east coast. Piteraqs are most common in the fall and winter. Wind speeds typically reach 50 to 80 m/s. This calculates out to 135 to 180 mph.

A friend of mine from Greenland used to mention such things and how they used to pop up with little to no warning and do crazy damage. Any chance this is related?

if you looked at the weather fronts that brought it here , it all appeared to come down from Greenland in a massive cyclone that travelled in off the Atlantic some where south of Ireland then took off north north east wards in one 600 mile long streak that was about 200 odd miles wide .
I read this weekend that the highest wind speed was in gusts in the Scottish Cairngorms where it did indeed just top 165 miles per hour .

martha 12/14/2011, 8:31 pm

Stay safe.

Luci Dawson 12/14/2011, 10:55 pm

And here I was moanin' and groanin' about the measly 85 mph gusts we got in Albuquerque a couple of weeks ago.

Stay warm and safe, planetoid. Your extended family will be much happier to know they won't have to worry about y'all traveling to see them until that monster storm goes bye-bye.

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