2014 SFG in Brooks, GA

Yolos, My snow peas survived the cold snap (hard freeze) last winter with a plastic drape for those nights. No more peas until spring but the plants survived.

Our first frost date here in Pooler is somewhere between the end of October or November.  Think they are ok unless you get a really hard freeze. That is what got mine one year, way down in teens a couple of nights in a row. But it is worth the try, love peas!

FALL PLANTING STARTING NOW  -  09/06/14

It finally cooled off enough to try to start my fall garden.  High 93 yesterday and 90* today, then going down under 90* for most of this coming week.

I put the tulle on the Broccoli bed, put in soaker hoses, small bamboo stakes where the broccoli will be planted and then planted the broccoli (Premium Crop), mulched with shredded wheat straw and put a shade cloth on the south side of the bed.

For those of you who have never used tulle, here are the steps.  Kay (Walshevka sp) showed this method a number of years ago.  I have used it and it makes it easy to get in and out of the bed when necessary.  Put tulle on each end of the bed.  Then cover the bed with one bigger piece of tulle.  I weight that down with wood strips on the sides and then you only have to remove the wood pieces and two clips to get into the inside of the bed.  And because it is Broccoli, the only time I will need to get in the bed is to put a side dressing of compost if needed and to harvest.  You can water directly thru the tulle and you can easily see the plants so you can keep an eagle eye out for their progress.






The last picture shows the shade cloth on the southside of the bed.  So it will get morning sunlight and shaded in the heat of the afternoon.  The rest of the fall veggies will have to wait until next weekend when it is expected to cool to below 90* and stay there hopefully.  My soil temp in some of my beds that were not watered is 85*.  In this bed that was heavily watered and mulched it is 80*.

Are those little stakes in there? You stake your broccoli?

Marc Iverson wrote:Are those little stakes in there?  You stake your broccoli?

Those are real small bamboo stakes, about the diameter of my little finger.  I put them in there to mark where I am going to plant the broccoli.  Then I lay the soaker hose around the bed staying as close to the stakes as I can.  Then when I plant the broccoli I plant it next to a stake so it will be beside the soaker hose.  I lay the soaker hose first so I do not damage any broccoli.  I leave the stakes in the ground for a while to make sure all the broccoli stands up straight.  If they are needed, then I will tie a broccoli stem to the stake.  But they are so small and stuck only as far down as the MM goes, so they don't really act as a real stake would.

I would never have thought of that and it is cheap and easier to handle! Thank you for sharing that.

Oh yolos, I am always so impressed with your work.  Nice job, especially with our awfully hot and humid weather.  I am working on just clearing beds.  I need to go to Pike soon, so might just break down and get some broccoli transplants.

My biggest accomplishment as of late was just to get the lawn cut!

Windmere wrote: I need to go to Pike soon, so might just break down and get some broccoli transplants.

Watch out for the broccoli transplants at Pike's.  I brought them home and put them on my screened porch.  After a couple days, there were holes in the leaves.  I found lots of little bitty baby caterpillars.  I found some nicer looking ones at Swints and Lowes.  The only problem was that each one of these stores only had one flat of Broccoli.  When I went back to Lowe's to replace the ones I bought at Pike's, they were all gone.  I do not know if they ever got any more in stock.

That's a pretty neat idea, yolos, thanks. I can see myself applying it even without considering irrigation -- just to know in advance exactly where I'm going to plant.

yolos wrote:

Windmere wrote: I need to go to Pike soon, so might just break down and get some broccoli transplants.

Watch out for the broccoli transplants at Pike's.  I brought them home and put them on my screened porch.  After a couple days, there were holes in the leaves.  I found lots of little bitty baby caterpillars.  I found some nicer looking ones at Swints and Lowes.  The only problem was that each one of these stores only had one flat of Broccoli.  When I went back to Lowe's to replace the ones I bought at Pike's, they were all gone.  I do not know if they ever got any more in stock.

Thank you very much for the head's up.  I have enough unwanted insect visitors without importing them from nurseries.  I'll keep an eye on Lowe's.  I think they have pretty good turn over; new stuff is coming in all the time.

Windmere - I stopped by Lowes on the way home from work today (Thursday).  They had a new shipment of Premium Crop Broccoli transplants for sale.  They were not fantastic looking but not bad.  I bought a few more.  I don't know why.  I already planted 23.  But I have a few empty flower beds that could really use some green color this fall so I thought I would just stick them around the different flower beds and hope the worms/caterpillars or rabbits don't find them.  Yea right.

svanahgirl wrote:I would never have thought of that and it is cheap and easier to handle! Thank you for sharing that.

Keep an eye out for Joannes Fabrics coupons, store flyers and online.  I have a phone app that each week sends me  specials.  One week was 50% off any single non sale item.  I bought a bolt of 108" wide tulle.  I use 54" wide usually but the discount was for 1 single cut of fabric and I could get twice as much tulle by being willing to cut it in half myself.  The 108" is exactly twice the price of the 54".  FYI.  54" will just fit over a 10' PVC hoop.  Fasten the middle fold to the middle of the hoop and bring the edges down to the bottom of the hoop and fasten.  Exactly as Yolos shows.

Kay

yolos wrote:Windmere - I stopped by Lowes on the way home from work today (Thursday).  They had a new shipment of Premium Crop Broccoli transplants for sale.  They were not fantastic looking but not bad.  I bought a few more.  I don't know why.  I already planted 23.  But I have a few empty flower beds that could really use some green color this fall so I thought I would just stick them around the different flower beds and hope the worms/caterpillars or rabbits don't find them.  Yea right.

Thanks for the info.  I'll have to go take a look.

SWEEET POTATO HARVEST 09/07/14

This year I planted my sweet potato slips in a 3 x 8 foot bed.  I planted 11 plants in the bed on 4/26/14.  They were planted 18" apart and 8 squares were left empty.  The vines are supposed to grow across the open squares, take root and produce more potatoes.  They did this, but the vines that rooted produced potatoes that were about half the size of the ones grown from slips.

My research showed that I was supposed to harvest the sweet potatoes before first frost or when the leaves started turning yellow.  They started tuning yellow about 2 weeks ago so I harvested them 9/7/14.  I harvested 50 lbs.  The largest was 2 lbs and the average was about 1 lb.

This is the Sweet Potato corral.  The vines grew so large I had to put trellis up on all sides.  One side had a 7 foot trellis and the vines grew to the top and came back down about 3 feet.

Sweet potato envy, here!

walshevak wrote:

svanahgirl wrote:I would never have thought of that and it is cheap and easier to handle! Thank you for sharing that.

Keep an eye out for Joannes Fabrics coupons, store flyers and online.  I have a phone app that each week sends me  specials.  One week was 50% off any single non sale item.  I bought a bolt of 108" wide tulle.  I use 54" wide usually but the discount was for 1 single cut of fabric and I could get twice as much tulle by being willing to cut it in half myself.  The 108" is exactly twice the price of the 54".  FYI.  54" will just fit over a 10' PVC hoop.  Fasten the middle fold to the middle of the hoop and bring the edges down to the bottom of the hoop and fasten.  Exactly as Yolos shows.

Kay

KAY - I may be misunderstanding you.  But there is no way a 54" wide piece of tulle will fit over a 120" (10 foot) PVC hoop.  Even allowing for the fact that the tulle only has to reach down to the top of the board forming the bed, I still don't see it.  So in my case, a 120 inch PVC hoop will sit down inside the bed 10 inches on either side of my bed.  That leaves the PVC hoop 100 inches from top of one side of the bed to the other side of the bed.  So a 54" wide piece will not fit.  I use the 108" wide tulle and cut my PVC hoops down to about 96" (8 feet), that leaves enough tulle hanging down the sides so I can anchor it with wood strips and also have some left over to fluff out if my plants start getting real wide.

What am I missing here.  Or are you saying your tulle measures 54" when it is folded and 108" wide when you unfold it.

Holy cow, those are some awesome sweet potato plants, yolos!

What a great success. I love sweet potatoes so much!

Are you going to plant them any differently next year? Like not leave those open squares and plant more potatoes in there, or just plant a different crop in the unused squares? From the looks of your corral, you would seem to have everything figured out just fine.

Marc Iverson wrote:Holy cow, those are some awesome sweet potato plants, yolos!

What a great success.  I love sweet potatoes so much!  

Are you going to plant them any differently next year?  Like not leave those open squares and plant more potatoes in there, or just plant a different crop in the unused squares?  From the looks of your corral, you would seem to have everything figured out just fine.

Yes, I will plant sweet potato starts in all the squares next year.  The size of the sweet potatoes under each start were at least twice as big as the ones that rooted in the empty squares. There is no way I could plant a different crop in the same bed because the vines would overtake everything planted in the empty squares.  I have heard of bush sweet potatoes but don't know anything about growing them.

So are you going to modify your trellis at all to accommodate the other new plants? Or maybe single-string them from the same trellis?

Marc Iverson wrote:So are you going to modify your trellis at all to accommodate the other new plants?  Or maybe single-string them from the same trellis?

No - I will not add any more trellis. The trellis all around the outside is nylon netting.  I will just wind the vines up and around the netting where ever they end up.  You have to weave them in and out of the netting, they will not climb the trellis on their own.  They are very tuff vines and you can just direct them where ever you want weaving them in and out.  I don't think the extra sweet potato plants will overwhelm the current set up.

Congrats on your harvest.  Those sweet potatoes re gorgeous!

Yolos, those look great.  I can't believe your leaves are already yellowing...  Mine sure aren't!  And I've got vines wandering thru the tomatoes and grass, lol!  Ended up cutting some of them yesterday when mowing.

AtlantaMarie wrote:Yolos, those look great.  I can't believe your leaves are already yellowing...  Mine sure aren't!  And I've got vines wandering thru the tomatoes and grass, lol!  Ended up cutting some of them yesterday when mowing.

AM - When did you plant your sweet potatoes.  I planted mine on 4/26 and harvested on 9/7.  That is about 135 days.  The leaves were yellowing but they could have been yellowing if I did not water enough.  Or maybe they needed fertilizer.  Don't know but 135 days is plenty of time.

FALL UPDATE

I took a weeks vacation from work so I could enjoy the outdoors before it gets too cold and to finish cleaning up the summer garden.  Of course I was sick for four days and couldn't get much done.  I still have to clear out the tomato bed and the bean bed.  And kill all the pesky ants that have decided to set up house in some of my beds and both of my compost piles.  I know, I know if I had kept my compost pile wet enough they would not have made their home in the piles. 

EXPERIMENT:
I still have a 4' x 32' bed that I never fully converted to SFG.  It still has soil in it but every year I have been adding large amounts of compost and small amounts of vermiculite so it is still great working in that bed.  This year I decided to try a cover crop.  I grew corn in the following bed and then on 9/26/14 planted Buckwheat.  It will die with a frost so I will turn it under as a green manure crop.  I wish I had planted it earlier so I could see the flowers.


PARTIAL FAILURE
I planted a 3' x 8' bed of sugar snap peas which germinated very well.  Unfortunately, with the movement of the sun this time of year, that bed is in shade a lot during the day.  I also planted a 3' x 8' of English shell peas but had terrible germination.  I soaked them but did not wait long enough to let them sprout before I planted them.  I only got about 33% germination.  So, I transplanted them to one end of the bed and planted some more broccoli.  I now have a total of over 50 broccoli plants but will be lucky to get any because I planted them so late.  This will be a test of how well they develop in cold weather.


A few Winterbor kale plants my daughter uses in here smoothies.

A few Bonnie brussel sprouts I am going to try to overwinter.  I have planted them at least two times before in the spring and have not been successful.  So this is another experiment.

Out of the 11 varieties of tomatoes I planted, I have three varieties still hanging in there.  Better Boy, Juliet, and Gilbertie.  The Gilbertie developed Blossom End Rot on a few of the tomatoes due (I assume) to the uneven watering.  Fairly beat up with few leaves but still producing a few toms here and there.

And my volunteer tomato taking over one of my empty compost boxes.  It is either a Juliet grape tomato or a Gilbertie because the baby toms setting on are pear shaped.  I doubt the toms will get much bigger because our first frost date is around the end of Oct.  Maybe I will cover it with a plastic tent to see how it does.  I purposely did not stake it so I could cover it if I decided to.

Of course, Yolos!  You took vacation!  No wonder you got sick!

But the pics are nice.  Everything seems to be fairly healthy...  Hope your fall planting goes well!