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Starting seeds
Hi everyone,
I know you should start your seeds early in the house. My problem is the seedlings want get enough light and the cat will eat the plants.
I know starting them outside would be wrong as well, but how about this idea.
I can build a small hoop house like I use to cover my bed when the weather is severe on the south side of the trailer. It gets warm there. Maybe I could put the trays on some small platforms so they are not on the ground, with maybe a heat pad under the tray.
Do y'all think this would be warm enough to grow seeds?
I know you should start your seeds early in the house. My problem is the seedlings want get enough light and the cat will eat the plants.
I know starting them outside would be wrong as well, but how about this idea.
I can build a small hoop house like I use to cover my bed when the weather is severe on the south side of the trailer. It gets warm there. Maybe I could put the trays on some small platforms so they are not on the ground, with maybe a heat pad under the tray.
Do y'all think this would be warm enough to grow seeds?
Cajunsmoke14- Posts : 84
Join date : 2013-10-13
Age : 57
Location : Turkey Creek, Louisiana
Re: Starting seeds
Hi Cajun, the most important thing is to not sow the seeds too early in the house. the second most important thing (besides growing medium, heat and water) is adequate light for adequate hours (14-16) a day.
I think there are quite a few threads that cover this, some of them from last year, some for the year before, so take a look around the forum.
There are a few websites I use when trying to figure when I should sow my seeds.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/t-interactivetools.aspx
http://myfolia.com/
http://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-dates/zipcode/70586
I think there are quite a few threads that cover this, some of them from last year, some for the year before, so take a look around the forum.
There are a few websites I use when trying to figure when I should sow my seeds.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/t-interactivetools.aspx
http://myfolia.com/
http://www.almanac.com/gardening/planting-dates/zipcode/70586
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Starting seeds
Mini-, portable- hot houses?? DH made these for me out of scrap wood. Lined with 4 ml plastic. I brought them inside when the nights dropped below 40*. I sowed the seeds Feb 15.
Re: Starting seeds
Oh, I forgot to mention, you will only need the heat mat for germination, after that the heat mat should be removed.
Nice little hot box sanderson.
Nice little hot box sanderson.
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Starting seeds
Those are cool, sanderson. Still not sure how I'll put something together for my own in-house start-ups.
Marc Iverson- Posts : 3637
Join date : 2013-07-05
Age : 63
Location : SW Oregon
Re: Starting seeds
maybe you can get more ideas here.Marc Iverson wrote:Those are cool, sanderson. Still not sure how I'll put something together for my own in-house start-ups.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t9532p30-stands-for-grow-lights?highlight=station
and here
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t9734-seed-starting?highlight=lights
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Starting seeds
Last winter was my very first try at seed starting, in my opinion it was very successful.
Had a few dollars left over from Christmas and picked up a 5 tier shelf kit at Lowes, for $75, added wheels for $25.
My most happy seeds were in a $3.00 each square plastic plastic 4 inch case with yogurt containers filled with potting soil.
I cut out the large bottom area of these containers, and added a small (cut to fit) round piece of teflon scrubber for drainage , it had a lip perfect for holding the round teflon piece.
Using the small area for the bottom I filled them all, loaded seeds and watered from the bottom up.
I had a couple other growing containers which were a little pricy,these didn't work as well as my home made units.
In August I moved this unit out of my basement, into my driveway and started my fall crops, they did well, even though I didn't get them in the ground soon enough, plants were fine except for the bugs, I'll take care of the bugs this season...
Wrapped the stand in sheet plastic, added a crock pot full of water on low setting on the bottom.
Fully enclosed with the crock pot open (no lid)...water temps 130 F and grow lamps on I had a temp of 75 deg F.inside the enclosure.
Lots of moisture also, opened it all when seeds came up and were doing well .
Starting fall seeds in August, able to move in and out of shade as needed...will continue to do this again.
Had a few dollars left over from Christmas and picked up a 5 tier shelf kit at Lowes, for $75, added wheels for $25.
My most happy seeds were in a $3.00 each square plastic plastic 4 inch case with yogurt containers filled with potting soil.
I cut out the large bottom area of these containers, and added a small (cut to fit) round piece of teflon scrubber for drainage , it had a lip perfect for holding the round teflon piece.
Using the small area for the bottom I filled them all, loaded seeds and watered from the bottom up.
I had a couple other growing containers which were a little pricy,these didn't work as well as my home made units.
In August I moved this unit out of my basement, into my driveway and started my fall crops, they did well, even though I didn't get them in the ground soon enough, plants were fine except for the bugs, I'll take care of the bugs this season...
Wrapped the stand in sheet plastic, added a crock pot full of water on low setting on the bottom.
Fully enclosed with the crock pot open (no lid)...water temps 130 F and grow lamps on I had a temp of 75 deg F.inside the enclosure.
Lots of moisture also, opened it all when seeds came up and were doing well .
Starting fall seeds in August, able to move in and out of shade as needed...will continue to do this again.
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 89
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Starting seeds
Nice set up Jimmy! I love the idea of the yougurt cups and scratchpads!!
cheyannarach- Posts : 2035
Join date : 2012-03-21
Location : Custer, SD
Re: Starting seeds
Those look like very clean holes to have been cut with a knife or razor blade. What's the secret?jimmy cee wrote:
Re: Starting seeds
boffer
The bottom of the cup is cut out.
To do this I use a box cutter with a new blade.
First just cut the center out close to the edge, THEN make the final cut very carefully,
keeping the edge of the cup pressed against a surface, make an oblong shape, then using the box cutter
cut the molded edge close to the rim.
Work the cutter as not to cut through the outer edge.
It took me a few tries, however it came quickly.
Just be sure caution is taken as the box cutters can cut through a finger or hand like it's butter.
Amazing how the yogurt remains in the areas that is removed.
Wife loves these yogurts and I love the containers.
Another nice feature, I wash them and use them again.
The bottom of the cup is cut out.
To do this I use a box cutter with a new blade.
First just cut the center out close to the edge, THEN make the final cut very carefully,
keeping the edge of the cup pressed against a surface, make an oblong shape, then using the box cutter
cut the molded edge close to the rim.
Work the cutter as not to cut through the outer edge.
It took me a few tries, however it came quickly.
Just be sure caution is taken as the box cutters can cut through a finger or hand like it's butter.
Amazing how the yogurt remains in the areas that is removed.
Wife loves these yogurts and I love the containers.
Another nice feature, I wash them and use them again.
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 89
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Starting seeds
Dremmels hobby tool hand grinders /drills make good hole cutters as well Boffer .
plantoid- Posts : 4095
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 73
Location : At the west end of M4 in the UK
Re: Starting seeds
The auto reminder from Gardenate for Zone 9A arrived today. Oh, man, I need to start seeds in the next few days.
Re: Starting seeds
Thanks jimmy cee and plantioid, I had been thinking about putting a hole saw on my old Milwaukee Hole Hawg! Overkill?
Re: Starting seeds
Has anyone ever used a dibble board?
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Starting seeds
Nope, I figure it's just one more thing I can't find when I need it! I'm content to let my fingers do the dimpling!
Re: Starting seeds
Thanks for all the advise and information.
Cajunsmoke14- Posts : 84
Join date : 2013-10-13
Age : 57
Location : Turkey Creek, Louisiana
Re: Starting seeds
Holesaw ???no no no
That plastic is so thin a saw will tear it up..
surgeons approach nice and neat
That plastic is so thin a saw will tear it up..
surgeons approach nice and neat
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 89
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Starting seeds
Jimmy's comment about being like a surgeon made me think of one of my wood working tools out in the garage . It is a trepanner with a tungsten tipped cutting arm & is normally razor sharp even after cutting out wood , ply wood , tinplate or aluminium disks
You could use such a trepanning cutter with a razor sharpened cutting tip on super slow speed in a table top drill press . Firstly putting a full length large round peg made of wood that fits the base of the cup & is screwed & glued to a big plywood baseplate . Put this inside the cup before you lower the trepanner to stop the cup collapsing perhaps using some expanded polystyrene as a sacrificial support in the cup . It would score through the plastic in seconds and you could adjust the feed down to suit the rate of clean cut , knowing that if things go pear shaped & foul up the wooden peg & the base plate will stop you taking your fingers off ( well that's the theory anyway )
You could use such a trepanning cutter with a razor sharpened cutting tip on super slow speed in a table top drill press . Firstly putting a full length large round peg made of wood that fits the base of the cup & is screwed & glued to a big plywood baseplate . Put this inside the cup before you lower the trepanner to stop the cup collapsing perhaps using some expanded polystyrene as a sacrificial support in the cup . It would score through the plastic in seconds and you could adjust the feed down to suit the rate of clean cut , knowing that if things go pear shaped & foul up the wooden peg & the base plate will stop you taking your fingers off ( well that's the theory anyway )
plantoid- Posts : 4095
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 73
Location : At the west end of M4 in the UK
Re: Starting seeds
plantoid wrote:Jimmy's comment about being like a surgeon made me think of one of my wood working tools out in the garage . It is a trepanner with a tungsten tipped cutting arm & is normally razor sharp even after cutting out wood , ply wood , tinplate or aluminium disks
You could use such a trepanning cutter with a razor sharpened cutting tip on super slow speed in a table top drill press . Firstly putting a full length large round peg made of wood that fits the base of the cup & is screwed & glued to a big plywood baseplate . Put this inside the cup before you lower the trepanner to stop the cup collapsing perhaps using some expanded polystyrene as a sacrificial support in the cup . It would score through the plastic in seconds and you could adjust the feed down to suit the rate of clean cut , knowing that if things go pear shaped & foul up the wooden peg & the base plate will stop you taking your fingers off ( well that's the theory anyway )
Sounds like a bigger hammer!
GG
Goosegirl- Posts : 3424
Join date : 2011-02-16
Age : 59
Location : Zone 4A - NE SD
Re: Starting seeds
LOL, box cutter to drill press. You guys are funny!
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: Starting seeds
I can't believe this
I finally found some simple and easy to do...and others are doing exactly what I used to do...
Take the most complicated and technical method....
Gotta go tel my wife, there really are others out the like me...
and she thought I was the only one that was like this..
Think I'll go change my box cutter blade
I finally found some simple and easy to do...and others are doing exactly what I used to do...
Take the most complicated and technical method....
Gotta go tel my wife, there really are others out the like me...
and she thought I was the only one that was like this..
Think I'll go change my box cutter blade
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 89
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Starting seeds
I usually start my seeds in trays and then transplant seedlings into cell packs or recycled cups.
in the last photo, L to R, a tray of tomato seedlings, transplanted basil seedlings, transplanted tomato seedlings.
in the last photo, L to R, a tray of tomato seedlings, transplanted basil seedlings, transplanted tomato seedlings.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
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