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Post  camprn 7/22/2012, 2:42 pm

Last year I took out all the queen cells, then I decided they knew what they were doing. I leave the queen cells in there now. I have been managing the hive pretty well this year, there are few queen cells, I think they are prepping, just in case. There are no eggs in any of the cells. It's all good. If they do choose to supersede the queen, they probably have a good reason!

So go to your profile and you can reset your notification preferrences. Wink

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Post  camprn 7/24/2012, 7:50 pm

Today I pulled the last of the shallots and onions. I was happy with the size of the shallots, but I just cannot seem to get my onions to grow bigger than a few inches across. I guess I need to do some more research on onion growing. Shocked
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Transplanting leek seedlings, the bloom is a leek.
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Post  hruten 7/25/2012, 6:20 am

Hey Camprn, Those blossoms are gorgeous. I'm jealous of all the onions you have too. That's ok, I've got plans for next year... the allium family get's a small 30" square box all to themselves!!

On that note. I planted some King Richard leeks this year. I've read that they are smaller than the grocery version, but I wanted forum input as whether to harvest them or try to overwinter indoors, etc. The are about .5 to .75 inch in diameter. Here's a pic
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I'm going to transplant the chives and bring them in. Gotta start on that herb garden too. so much to do!!
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Post  camprn 7/25/2012, 9:01 am

Good morning, the leeks I transplanted were King Richard. Yes that are smaller in the round. No they cannot be overwintered for food. There is really no point, it wont make them grow any bigger. The blooming one is a holdover from last year. Harvest them when you think they are big enough! Wink

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Post  CapeCoddess 7/25/2012, 2:43 pm

Wow, Camp...that's quite an onion harvest you have there!

I planted a rotted onion from the grocery store way back in spring and it made 3 long stems and 3 flowers like your leeks. I pulled it up a couple weeks ago and there were 2 fresh nice sized round white onions under there, so I put them back in coz I wasn't sure what I was supposed to do. Today I cut off half of one of the flower stems, since the wind bent it, and put it in my salad for lunch. Yum!

I've also been planting the root bottoms that I chop off of yellow grocery store onions recently. Will they grow into flowers also?

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Post  NHGardener 7/29/2012, 10:10 pm

I've been wondering when to pull up my onions. They have those white flowers on the tops, but I wanted them to grow as big as possible. They don't look larger than 2-3" across either, from the ones sticking out of the ground. Also have to wonder when to dig my potatoes. The plants themselves look terrible from the slugs, don't know whether I'll even have potatoes under there. Not sure when to pull carrots either, but maybe the later the better.

But the main post is: I've become a human pesticide. Every day I'm in that garden several times pulling hornworms. One evening I went in with a flashlight and hoodie (mosquitoes) and pulled probably a hundred slugs. It's labor intensive, but it's actually kind of fun, feeding those hornworms to the chickens. I get about 10-15 a day. Last year this time I didn't even know what they were, till I took a photo of their droppings and posted it here. This year I'll get more tomatoes, keeping on top of the hornworms.

Have so many expanded plans for next year...
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Post  camprn 7/31/2012, 7:48 pm

Some of the stuff I took to the County Fair today.
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Post  NHGardener 7/31/2012, 7:51 pm

BEAUTIFUL!!!!

Love that comb honey. You make it look so PRETTY...
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Post  camprn 7/31/2012, 8:09 pm

NHGardener wrote:I've been wondering when to pull up my onions. They have those white flowers on the tops, but I wanted them to grow as big as possible. They don't look larger than 2-3" across either, from the ones sticking out of the ground. Also have to wonder when to dig my potatoes. The plants themselves look terrible from the slugs, don't know whether I'll even have potatoes under there. Not sure when to pull carrots either, but maybe the later the better.


Well, if they are flowering I think they are beyond ready to pull and will not store well. May be time for french onion soup, ooooooooh Baby! I love me some good homemade French onion soup.

My onions were piddly as well, I have not found the magic for growing larger onions.... This may be part of my winter research.

Potatoes you van dig after flowering and when the foliage has died back.

Carrots, if you can see shoulders, try to feel how wide it is. If you are satisfied with what you find, pull it up. However, no guarantee that it's long.
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Post  NHGardener 7/31/2012, 8:44 pm

Ah. Well live and learn. This was my first batch of onions. They have such beautiful globe blossoms. Okay, I'll pull those tomorrow.

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Post  camprn 7/31/2012, 9:08 pm

The bees really like the blooms, Wink may as well let them stay, unless you have plans for that patch of garden. Also, if you wanted you could save the seed.

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Post  NHGardener 8/2/2012, 12:56 pm

Found one of these babies on my lawn this morning. The hornworm moth. Wow, is it huge.

http://nitro.biosci.arizona.edu/zeeb/butterflies/figs/moths/Sphingidae/M_quinquemaculata.jpg

It's bigger than it looks in that photo.

I have her in a jar, not sure what to do with her. She's too big to squish. YUCK.

I wonder how many hornworms are produced from one moth. Hoping I caught the motherload. Haha.

(I'm still pulling about 5 hornworms or so daily off the tomato/potato plants)
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Post  camprn 8/2/2012, 5:50 pm

I would suggest let her go. Her life is short enough. It is good you are vigilant about hunting up the worms in the garden...

the moth is a true beauty. What a Face

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Post  NHGardener 8/2/2012, 5:57 pm

I'll send her to you if you want. Very Happy

Srsly tho, isn't she still an egg layer? If so, she is causing me lots of headaches. I should send her a bill for my time...
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Post  camprn 8/2/2012, 5:58 pm

It could be a boy. Wink

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Post  NHGardener 8/2/2012, 6:04 pm

Please allow me to therapeutically relieve myself of just ONE hornworm moth in my lifetime. Very Happy

Looking on wikipedia, I didn't realize there is a tobacco hornworm just slightly different from a tomato hornworm, altho it looks like they'll both eat the same foliage. And that marigolds can help keep the population down, tho I'm not sure why. I'll have to try marigolds next year.

You probably don't want to hear about where my drone comb is right now... What a Face
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Post  camprn 8/2/2012, 6:48 pm

I planted a ton of calendula all around my tomatoes, eggplant and peppers! I can send you some seed for next year. They grow so easy and you will always have seed for the future.

I have not seen any hornworms yet.

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Did you have hornworms other years, before your calendula?
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Post  camprn 8/2/2012, 9:28 pm

NHGardener wrote:Did you have hornworms other years, before your calendula?
Why, yes I did. But I usually find them when they are still relatively, about 2" small....... and usually not a lot of them. PM Me you address and I will drop some seed in the mail to you. Probably not for a few weeks, they seed is curing on the porch.

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If I figured out how to PM right, you should be getting a message soon. Smile
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Post  NHGardener 8/3/2012, 12:18 pm

Well camprn, my 12 y.o. and I looked at that moth in that jar last night, and she said: Can we let it go? And I said - Oh, fine.

I'll regret this next summer.
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