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Post  acara 5/9/2011, 7:15 am

Wowsers .... thats one dead-sexy box base (not that the boxes themselves were anything to sneeze at....but I'm a metal fan myself) !!

cheers

Is that just welded angle and pipe you used?
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Post  Furbalsmom 5/9/2011, 4:06 pm

willf

Those are great bases. I love table top gardening, as you will. Not only will it keep the dogs out, allow for better mowing and trimming, it saves your back and knees.

Congratulations on a job well done. cheers
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Post  Hoggar 5/9/2011, 5:15 pm

Those Stands look great but I would put some corner bracing on those legs, once the boxes are full of dirt there going to be very heavy and with no side support the table will twist and go down.

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Post  willf650 5/10/2011, 4:29 pm

I may add some bracing but that table will not just twist and colapse under a static load. I was standing on the table shaking side to side to see how stiff it was and don't forsee it falling unless you try moving it with a full bed on top of it.


As far a construction it consists of 2" x 1/4" angle, 1 1/2" x 3/16" angle and 1" x 3/16" erw tubing.It also has some 1/8" plate for the feet. It's not exactly pipe as its made for a structual load.
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Post  Furbalsmom 5/10/2011, 4:40 pm

The following is a link to Boffer's Table Top supports.

There are photos and descriptions of his steel tables. He has used these for some time and is comfortable with their strength and stability. Sounds like you used heavier material than he did.

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Post  willf650 6/5/2011, 8:31 pm

I built a second stand last Saturday and raised the second bed last Sunday. The plan was to wait until we harvested a crop of strawberries prior to disturding the bed.

The strawberries were going good this spring.
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Until the dogs found them and promptly started lifting the bird netting off of them and grazing on them every day. They ate all the berries and trampled the plants in the course of two weeks, the same period the berries started turning red.

We went from this:

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Granted we did dig them up and replant them in the above photo but they weren't much better prior to the replanting.

Here are the results after lifting and applying a two new coats of tinted water seal. (I was disappointed with the way the previous coat held up. This is a different brand)

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Hopefully we will now have a dog free summer. I suspect the little dog in the pictures will still be in plants if they peak her interest. I've caught her walking on the upper shelf of the potting bench and thats about 5' above the ground.

Atleast I can now cut the grass around them. After planting and working in these I don't think I will ever have gardens on the ground again.
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Post  Hoggar 6/8/2011, 11:05 am

Those stands look great sorry to hear about the puppy's fondness for strawberries.
I hadnt thought about keeping the birds out of strawberries I'm going to have to
protect the wife's little pot of heaven. cant stand the things my self, her and the
kids love them though.
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Post  Furbalsmom 6/10/2011, 4:57 pm

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After planting and working in these I don't think I will ever have gardens on the ground again

I know exactly what you mean. I have 3 table tops and still not enough room, so my tomatoes are all in 5 gallon buckets. Not as high as a table top, but it will be helpful.
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Post  vfclead 6/18/2011, 10:58 pm

I'm thrilled with the progress of our 2nd year SFG. The veggie box is growing like crazy! I'm a little worried that I should have started trimming the pumpkin, cantaloupe & butternut squash vines - I'm just reading about that now and already have quite the growth on all three plants. These pics are from 6/12/11 - the plants have already grown visibly larger since then.
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The tomato plants are doing so much better this year than last year (4 plants, 3 varieties). I really hope we wind up with eatable fruit this year, last year all of the tomatoes cracked or never ripened.

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Until next update!

Jenn & Will - the happy garden team!
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Post  Furbalsmom 6/20/2011, 5:30 pm

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Have you considered trellising your pumpkin, cantalope and butternut?

To be honest, I don't know if it is too late to try to train those vines up, but if possible, they sure would take up less room

Your table tops look good, everything seems healthy and really happy.
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Post  capatl 7/10/2011, 1:30 am

Sorry this is a bit long!

Thank you guys for posting your progress! I am about halfway through the New SFG book and can't wait to get started. We bought our first house last December and it already had a (slightly) raised row bed in the yard, so I just planted stuff in it and have been winging it. My biggest challenge is also my two furry children!

As I was scrolling through your pics, I nudged my husband and said, "Look they have a dog, wonder how that's going to work out..." I continued to scroll and my question was quickly answered as I read you next paragraph about your dog digging up your Mel's Mix!

I appreciate all of the info and work you have done. My dogs haven't eaten or dug up anything...but soil isn't too great either, lol. BUT, I have found 'deposits' from the pups a couple times and squealed as I saw back legs lifting aim towards my plants!

Based on your accounts, I may opt to do the table top gardens instead of the 6 inch raised style. I can't think of any other option to prevent them from peeing, other than building an outer fence a couple feet wider than the perimeter of the garden, with a gate. I currently have the same green fencing along portions of the garden, but that won't stop the pee, plus I want stuff to vine up it! Ewww, imagine biting into a sweet ice box watermelon only to find the flavor tainted with a dog pee. That hasn't happened (with the cucumbers I tasted) but I fear that it will mess with my head while eating them!

Did you guys consider fencing or price out both options, finding the table was less expensive? I am still apprehensive of all of this as these various obstacles are adding to the cost.

Oh, and by the way Jennifer, I am also a very picky eater and of course the tomatoes were ripe first, my hubbies fav. At least I was able to see if it had a urine flavor without having to find out for myself! Razz

I envy you're handiness with putting it all together. I hope I can get my hubby more enthusiastic about gardening when the time comes! Please keep updating! Your posts are so helpful! happy hi
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Post  shannon1 7/10/2011, 2:14 am

I am a huge fan of the TT gardens so glad that is what I chose. I used milk crates for the legs 2 high just asked for them at the shops I go to. Some said no, but enough said yes I got all I needed for free.
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Post  UnderTheBlackWalnut 7/11/2011, 2:01 pm

+1 on the modified tabletops. I have dogs too and I still wanted some things on a trellis (and I'm just a shade over 5' standing on my tiptoes) so I didn't want high tabletops. I just boosted my beds (plywood bottom) up on cinderblocks. Not super high, just high enough. I do still get my dogs nosing in fresh MM and once in a while one will try to jump up on a bed if it's newly planted, but I just "read them the riot act" when they try that and they usually decide it's not worth it. Smile You'd have to have a fairly tall dog to need a couple, but I've seen pics where people have actually raised them to waist height on cinderblocks as well.
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