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Post  cherylLun on 9/3/2019, 8:25 pm

I have been garening in raised beds (31 inches tall) that I bought from a garden supply website.  I am now having 2 beds built that will be 10' by 4' and 31" high.  

They will not be open below like my others were... they will be a solid wall.  Should I cover the ground with gravel or plastic?  should I have drain outlets?  

We have very rich dirt here and at this same time we are having a patio built and I had them save the soil that they dug up for the under soil of the beds and then I will put my "good compost soil" on top of that...at least 2 feet of that.

they will be built this next week so I'm just curious, thanks in advance for any help
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Post  sanderson on 9/3/2019, 11:14 pm

Hi Cheryl,  One of the benefits of SFG using what we call Mel's Mix, is that a bed does not have to be very deep.  The typical SFG bed is about 8" high with 6-7" of Mel's Mix.  The bottoms are lined with weed fabric (or cardboard) before adding the MM.

That are you going to use on the bottom of the new beds?  Drainage is very important.  For example, I have 2' tall table top beds with only 6-7" of Mel's Mix.  The bottoms of the beds are made of 3/4" plywood with 1/4 to 3/8" drain holes, one in the center of each sq ft and 1 in each of the 4 corners.

Can you explain how the new beds will not be open at the bottom?  That may help us understand what you are trying to achieve.

Here is a photo of one of my table top beds with a plywood bottom.
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Post  cherylLun on 9/7/2019, 7:43 pm

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The beds I had before were like the ones you show of yours.  My husband wanted my beds to match the patio and such in the back yard and didn't like my wood planters.... so, I now have two 10' by 4' (inside dimensions) and 30" high.  going to fill the bottom part with good rich soil that I have in my yard that was dug up before and fill the top couple of feet with mels.  These just got finished today and will be filled with soil on Monday so that's why I was wondering what to do (if anything) about drainage.  Being on the ground will it just drain naturally?
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Post  OhioGardener on 9/7/2019, 8:00 pm

CherylLun, being on the ground it will drain fine and should not cause any problems. You might want to re-think your plan to fill the top 2 feet with Mel's Mix - that will be very expensive, and really isn't necessary. Eight inches of MM will be enough to grow most any vegetables you will be growing. 

If it were me, I would fill the bottom foot or so with wood, i.e., tree limbs, pieces of tree trunks, etc., then fill with the top soil up to about 6" to 8" of the top, and fill the rest of it with MM.  (Do a google search of Hugelkultur for more info on using wood in the bottom of the raised beds).

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Post  sanderson on 9/8/2019, 3:40 pm

What Ohio Gardener said.  Fill the bottom with whatever, leaving at least 6-8" for Mel's Mix plus 1-2" for mulch.  I would put a layer of weed fabric between the "whatever" and the MM in case the dirt has weed seeds.  The roots of the veggies can go through it but the weeds spouting upwards is deterred.

I would recommend two (2) grids, each 4' x 5', for each bed.  It makes it easier to removed them for major cleanup and ease of amending with more blended compost.  Just don't forget to put the grids back in immediately.

By the way, those beds are gorgeous! Shocked

I still have some grids made of wood like this which is available at Home Depot.  They have a new white plastic trim that looks really nice against grey stone and brown Mel's Mix.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Woodgrain-Millwork-WM-142-1-4-in-x-3-4-in-Pine-Screen-Moulding-10000711/206000895

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Post  cherylLun on 9/8/2019, 4:16 pm

Thanks for the info!  I just happen to have a lot of branches and such since Dorian blew by so I'm going to put all of that in the bottom.  I can certainly see how having two smaller grids vs one large one would be a great idea Smile
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