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Post  sanderson 4/4/2021, 3:35 am

Husband to the rescue.  Not only has he cleaned and amended the beds, but he is setting out my seedlings!  He moved a chair around the yard for me to give instructions on what to plant where.  Tomorrow is a nasty job of amending the BTE strip with chicken manure for 12 of the indeterminate tomatoes.

The gardening stool from Gardener's Supply arrived and I hope to try it out in a couple of days. https://www.gardeners.com/buy/garden-kneelers/40-008.html?VariationId=V_5637187410

Planting luffa, cucumbers and cantaloupe in a 2'x4' bed. Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Ken_ca10

Planting the precious Snow Fairy tomatoes in the 2'x8' on-ground bed with cement board bottom.  Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Ken_sn10

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Post  AtlantaMarie 4/4/2021, 8:24 am

He's a keeper, that's for sure!   Very Happy

The "precious snow fairy tomatoes"?  What do you like about them?
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Post  Kelejan 4/4/2021, 9:08 am

Kudos for you husband, sanderson,  I like his kneepads, I could do with some of them as they look so comfortable. Very Happy
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Post  jimmy cee 4/4/2021, 12:11 pm

I have always enjoyed photo's from your garden. hoping your Easter is a pleasant one, I have a lot of catching up to do...
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Post  sanderson 4/4/2021, 12:37 pm

@AtlantaMarie wrote:He's a keeper, that's for sure!   Very Happy

The "precious snow fairy tomatoes"?  What do you like about them?
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Post  sanderson 4/4/2021, 12:50 pm

@Kelejan wrote:Kudos for you husband, sanderson,  I like his kneepads, I could do with some of them as they look so comfortable. Very Happy
His son gifted them. Ken has always had knee pads, but he said these are the best he has ever had. Light weight, R and L knee design for full comfort.

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Post  sanderson 4/6/2021, 1:12 am

And, the expansion continues: 2 blueberries, 1 lemon, 1 lime, 1 nectarine, and 2 pears. May have to wait until next sporing for a cherry tree. Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Fruit_11

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Post  sanderson 12/4/2021, 1:06 pm

It's been 6 months since I posted on this thread.  I lost almost 6 months of full gardening activities due to health this year.

I woke up this December morning to fog and a rose bush full of roses!  Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Garde102

The CA soft neck garlic cloves have been in about 7 weeks now, and have been growing like crazy.  I will be mulching with E-Z Straw any time now.  The strawberry plants my daughter transplanted for me this spring, propagated like mad.  I cut off the cascading runners and plants recently, and will try to tidy the plants and maybe thin and cover with straw before real winter starts.  Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Garlic18

The pot area needs a little more cleaning before real winter.  The oregano from the deteriorated table top bed will be potted and set in this area where it can't do any harm. Razz Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Garde103

Last, but not least, the winter Swiss chard and broccoli covered with tulle and the replacement table top bed in progress. The bed is about 4" narrower than the original so I will have to modify the drip system.  The PVC frame also had to be trimmed to fit the new size. Yes,that's fluffed peat moss on top of the Mel's Mix, waiting to be turned in.  After a few years, the MM becomes basically heavy with all compost with smaller pieces of vermiculite.  So, instead of throwing away the MM and making new MM, like has been recommended, I try to reestablish the 1/3 1/3 1/3 balance by adding an inch of fluffed peat moss and an inch of coarse vermiculite after 6-7 years. Sanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Garde104

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Post  donnainzone5 12/5/2021, 1:38 pm

Sanderson,

How have you been doing?  Was your Thanksgiving a pleasant one?

Could I use cement blocks as you have with drilled cement board on top, then a regular wooden bed?  I think that might be a good solution to my bed replacement problem.

Thanks in advance.
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Post  yolos 12/5/2021, 7:45 pm

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Allright Sanderson.  Another question.  I am getting ready to replace some of my older beds and going to exclusively use 2 x 8 size beds.  This time I want to use the PVC structure you have on this bed.  I understand all of the pieces except the one in the middle of the bed that is supporting the top rail.  I can't figure out that one.  Also is the top rail approximately 8' PVC pipe or approximately two  4' pieces.
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Post  OhioGardener Yesterday at 7:33 am

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I understand all of the pieces except the one in the middle of the bed that is supporting the top rail.  I can't figure out that one.  Also is the top rail approximately 8' PVC pipe or approximately two  4' pieces.

Yolos, when I built mine, I used the 90-degree fittings from Lowe's (shown below).  The way I did it uses separate pieces of PVC pipe for the top rail, cut to length.


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Post  yolos Yesterday at 2:06 pm

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I understand all of the pieces except the one in the middle of the bed that is supporting the top rail.  I can't figure out that one.  Also is the top rail approximately 8' PVC pipe or approximately two  4' pieces.

Yolos, when I built mine, I used the 90-degree fittings from Lowe's (shown below).  The way I did it uses separate pieces of PVC pipe for the top rail, cut to length.


90-Degree Double Side Outlet PVC Pipe FittingSanderson's Urban SFG in Fresno, California - Page 9 Pvc_4-10
Thanks OG.  I can see it now.  This was the piece I was having a problem imagining.
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Post  sanderson Yesterday at 9:39 pm

Yolos, I see you figured out the top center fitting.  When I first started building the various gable-roof frames, I had to really think things through - no distractions.   There are two pieces of PVC for the top rail (approx. 4').

Donna, Thanksgiving was just the 2 of us.  Plans fell apart because of the common cold in the family!   Razz  Not covid, but the common cold!  Health-wise, pain is down to a Tylenol at bedtime, and I'm getting proficient with my limp.  Razz  I see the surgeon in January and will see what he thinks.  I am grateful that I can drive again, and limp or not, I am able to live again.

Regarding using the cement board, I'm leery of drilling drainage holes in it for the table tops.  I don't know if it would hasten the deterioration.  For the bed on the  ground, there were no holes and the water seeped out the sides between the bottom and sides.  The experiment of the cement board (pieced with red tape) was to exclude invasive roots. We will get to that bed soon and I'll update the condition of the board after 20+ months. The new TT bed in the photos shows that I have 2 layers of cement board with a sheet of plastic on top.  The water will travel along the plastic and drain out between the plastic and the sides of the bed.

Plywood is so expensive now so it was a no brainer to go with cement board.  OSB, even 3/4" thickness is also affordable but if I used it, I would definitely top with a 4 mil layer of plastic to keep it dry. I'm cautious with the weight bearing on the cement board and I limit the span between the cement blocks. A 2' span in both directions for plywood but closer to 1' for drywall. It may turn out that with a protective layer of 4 mil plastic, the 2-way 2-foot span may work out.

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