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Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
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Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
I was playing with the layout of my new SFG, trying to decide where the beds should go before I build the boxes. I was trying to use the most space for beds and at the same time make it interesting.
Has anyone used an L or U shaped layout with 4x4 beds? I am looking at do this as a shape.
The corners might be an issue as far as my being able to reach into the bed and maintain it. I suppose I could limitwhat I needed to do in those corners, depending on what I planted there. For example, I could move my strawberries to the corners since they don't require too much from me once they are established. Or I guess I could cut off the outside points of the corners... hmmm..
Any feedback before I build?
-- Lisa
Has anyone used an L or U shaped layout with 4x4 beds? I am looking at do this as a shape.
The corners might be an issue as far as my being able to reach into the bed and maintain it. I suppose I could limitwhat I needed to do in those corners, depending on what I planted there. For example, I could move my strawberries to the corners since they don't require too much from me once they are established. Or I guess I could cut off the outside points of the corners... hmmm..
Any feedback before I build?
-- Lisa
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
I've seen some pretty elaborate layouts in the Gallery, so there's no reason it wouldn't work. I have 2 long SFG's and they make an L pattern, but nothing as intricate as what you've designed. I agree that the corner boxes might be an issue, but like you say strawberries might be an option as would something that takes up a lot of space like a bushing zucchini.
Good luck. Please post some pics when it's built!
Good luck. Please post some pics when it's built!
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Looks great - esp since you have already considered the "hard to reach" parts. The only thing to keep in mind is the amount of veggies you want to grow that are vining. I grow a ton of things that need trellised and wish I had done my layout so it was more condusive to that. But I make it work and I'm sure you will too.
And I've got to say - I'm completely jealous of your layout! So much room!!! I only have 2 4x4 boxes which greatly limits my growing abilities!
And I've got to say - I'm completely jealous of your layout! So much room!!! I only have 2 4x4 boxes which greatly limits my growing abilities!
bonnie0128- Posts : 110
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 48
Location : Lake Milton, OH (zone 6A)
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
I like the idea of the zucchini in the corners too, although I am considering trying a verticle variety to see if that will work.
I will have to move our strawberries evenually. Right now I have a 4x8 patch of strawberries that I will evenutally move into the SFG (since they are off to the right side right now and would be in the way of the right most path). Don't want to move yet as they are just starting to form berries!
I was thinking of making each 4x4 box separate so I could use the corners to bend PVC for covers or the like. As for trellises, that is a good point.
There is a raised garden plan on the Sunset website that uses sections of PVC pipe attached to the inside of the raised bed to connect covers, garden supports, etc... Here is the link.
http://www.sunset.com/garden/backyard-projects/ultimate-raised-bed-how-to-00400000011938/page6.html
I thought if I used those, I would be able to put verticals wherever I want. Course, I would have to offset the location of them by my planting grid. I suspect there are PVC pipes that would work with the conduit of the trellis (instead of the rebar pounded into the ground?) Only downside I have thought is that I would want to cap the open end so that stuff didn't fall in.
-- Lisa
I will have to move our strawberries evenually. Right now I have a 4x8 patch of strawberries that I will evenutally move into the SFG (since they are off to the right side right now and would be in the way of the right most path). Don't want to move yet as they are just starting to form berries!
I was thinking of making each 4x4 box separate so I could use the corners to bend PVC for covers or the like. As for trellises, that is a good point.
There is a raised garden plan on the Sunset website that uses sections of PVC pipe attached to the inside of the raised bed to connect covers, garden supports, etc... Here is the link.
http://www.sunset.com/garden/backyard-projects/ultimate-raised-bed-how-to-00400000011938/page6.html
I thought if I used those, I would be able to put verticals wherever I want. Course, I would have to offset the location of them by my planting grid. I suspect there are PVC pipes that would work with the conduit of the trellis (instead of the rebar pounded into the ground?) Only downside I have thought is that I would want to cap the open end so that stuff didn't fall in.
-- Lisa
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
The main problem I see is that no matter what you grow in those corner boxes, it will need harvesting. Can you reach 3'? I can't. One option, if you have the room is to bump up the top center two boxes by 2 squares (so they overlap the side boxes by half). That would solve the reaching issues. And if you wanted, give you 2 or 4 more squares to add to the 2 by center bed. (I hope that made sense.)
Retired Member 1- Posts : 904
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Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
When considering PVC, consider this; make sure to get UV and sunlight resistant. Even at that there is mo guarantee the it wont warp and become misshaped. If you get a conduit big enough to take those factors out it will most likely be to big to be used. Consider using schedule 80 gray PVC. This is electrical grade and is a bit tougher than white irrigation or plumbing pipe. Trade size 3/4" should do it. Although bending it maybe problematic. You might use factory 90 degree elbows for that. Well that is probably more info than you neede or wanted, but that is my 2 cents.
scoobe- Posts : 24
Join date : 2010-03-08
Location : South Florida
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Hi,
I vote for tomatoes or flowers in the hard to reach areas. It is easy to pick tomatoes and the flowers can just look pretty with little maintenance.
Patty in Yorktown
I vote for tomatoes or flowers in the hard to reach areas. It is easy to pick tomatoes and the flowers can just look pretty with little maintenance.
Patty in Yorktown
Patty from Yorktown- Posts : 350
Join date : 2010-03-05
Location : Yorktown, Virginia
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Thanks for all your help. Based on the feedback, I think I am going to do another layout. My kids, of course, have strong opinions!
Will let you know what we finally decide on.
-- Lisa
Will let you know what we finally decide on.
-- Lisa
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
My neighbor has more or less squared off "W" shaped beds, but the crosswise beds connecting the arms are narrower (only about 2" wide because they're along the fence) and she has not had any trouble reaching into the "corners". You might think about adjusting your bed width if you still like the shape.
Another thing to think about, you will have to walk all the way around the whole length of the "arms" to access each side close to the "crosspiece" as opposed to a few steps to get to the other side. That may not matter for you depending on how you plant your squares.
Sharon
Another thing to think about, you will have to walk all the way around the whole length of the "arms" to access each side close to the "crosspiece" as opposed to a few steps to get to the other side. That may not matter for you depending on how you plant your squares.
Sharon
Odd Duck- Posts : 327
Join date : 2010-03-08
Age : 61
Location : DFW, TX, Zone 7b/8a
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Possably a kneeling board attached cattykorner in the korners might help the reaching part but it will be a little of a blancing act
choksaw- Posts : 459
Join date : 2010-03-02
Age : 49
Location : New Port Richey FL.
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
i grew in 4 legged m once
gridgardener- Posts : 67
Join date : 2010-03-11
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
i am trying some L shaped beds this year. i hope they do well. I wanted to use the space i have next to the house that gets the best sunlight and so i came up with this "maze" design. i will be sure to update how it goes.
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kingdaddy- Posts : 21
Join date : 2010-04-01
Location : GA
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Hi Kingdaddy
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the picture. That's a fun looking maize layout you have there. Have you decided what stuff you'll be planting and where?
Welcome to the forum and thanks for the picture. That's a fun looking maize layout you have there. Have you decided what stuff you'll be planting and where?
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Kingdaddy thats gonna look awesome when its all grown in maybe you could stand on the roof and get an arial shot then good job
choksaw- Posts : 459
Join date : 2010-03-02
Age : 49
Location : New Port Richey FL.
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
thanks! first let me explain the layout. this is the southern side of my house - full daylight. it was a part of the yard that was getting no use and i had outgrown the container garden i was growing on my deck. this picture is facing due east. if it were morning when i took the picture you would see the sunrise. the sun travels directly overhead of the garden and sets behind where i was standing to take that picture. i will plant tomatoes in the back 2 L's. i have 20 heirloom varieties that my students started in my class room and will be going in the beds this week. the taller varieties will be in the very back bed, the smaller varieties in the next bed. The middle "T" bed is home to a 3 sisters garden with 2 varieties of corn, squash, zucchini, and ky wonder pole beans. the bed close bed on the left will be home to peppers, jalapeno and bell, aspargus and strawberries on the close end. and the close bed on the right will be for cukes growing up the fence, carrots, 2 types of bush beans, and 2 okra plants. it was 80 degrees here today - its seems that spring may finally be here!
kingdaddy- Posts : 21
Join date : 2010-04-01
Location : GA
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
Kingdaddy,
Looks very cool! How wide are the beds and how big did you make the paths?
Can't wait to see them full and growing.
-- Lisa
Looks very cool! How wide are the beds and how big did you make the paths?
Can't wait to see them full and growing.
-- Lisa
Re: Anyone try U or L shaped layout?
the L beds are 3 feet wide and the outer boards are 8 feet long and there are 4 of these beds. the T bed is actually 2 3x5 beds arranged to make a T shape. the walkways are about 2 feet to 2.5 feet wide.
actually the most popular game at my house for my kids was - garden maze races, for a while. this was before i had filled them and before i had planted in them. now the kids dont go in with out me.
i cant wait for them to be growing! i can get a picture from the top of the playstructure in the back yard that give a slightly better view.
actually the most popular game at my house for my kids was - garden maze races, for a while. this was before i had filled them and before i had planted in them. now the kids dont go in with out me.
i cant wait for them to be growing! i can get a picture from the top of the playstructure in the back yard that give a slightly better view.
kingdaddy- Posts : 21
Join date : 2010-04-01
Location : GA
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