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Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
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Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Hi everyone,
I will try to keep my introduction short (I can be very verbose!)
I have always enjoyed the outdoors, yet growing up, my family was never very "outdoorsy". I became separated/divorced a couple of years ago and since that time have begun to fully enjoy the outdoors. I've learned to go camping (never did that before ), kayaking, hiking, mountain biking, cross-country skiing, etc. It has been so wonderful and liberating.
Gardening is something I have always been interested in, but other than "helping" my ex-husband with a garden we had several years ago, I have no gardening experience. I decided that I want to learn to garden on my own-- that will be my next new adventure in the outdoors. I have experienced a lot of emotional growth over the past few years and can't help but see gardening as an analogy for that growth. As a single mother, I am also looking forward to sharing this with my children.
I was lucky enough to come across Mel's book when I did a search online. I just received the book through inter-library loan about a week ago and am so grateful that I am beginning my gardening experience the "right" way!
I am planning on building my boxes this weekend if I feel that I am ready. I am so glad I came to check out the website and found this forum. I have a feeling it will be an invaluable resource for me.
Looking forward to "meeting" all of you!
-Kim
I will try to keep my introduction short (I can be very verbose!)
I have always enjoyed the outdoors, yet growing up, my family was never very "outdoorsy". I became separated/divorced a couple of years ago and since that time have begun to fully enjoy the outdoors. I've learned to go camping (never did that before ), kayaking, hiking, mountain biking, cross-country skiing, etc. It has been so wonderful and liberating.
Gardening is something I have always been interested in, but other than "helping" my ex-husband with a garden we had several years ago, I have no gardening experience. I decided that I want to learn to garden on my own-- that will be my next new adventure in the outdoors. I have experienced a lot of emotional growth over the past few years and can't help but see gardening as an analogy for that growth. As a single mother, I am also looking forward to sharing this with my children.
I was lucky enough to come across Mel's book when I did a search online. I just received the book through inter-library loan about a week ago and am so grateful that I am beginning my gardening experience the "right" way!
I am planning on building my boxes this weekend if I feel that I am ready. I am so glad I came to check out the website and found this forum. I have a feeling it will be an invaluable resource for me.
Looking forward to "meeting" all of you!
-Kim
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Welcome to the forum!!! I am also a newbie (just finished my box today), and have already found in this place an invaluable resource, and dare I say a little bit of an obsession.
So again, welcome. Glad you could make it.
Tracy
So again, welcome. Glad you could make it.
Tracy
jazzymaddy- Posts : 309
Join date : 2011-03-20
Age : 50
Location : Fort Mill, SC
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Welcome to you both. It is wonderful to have you join us. Tracy, we are all a little obsessed here, so you will fit right in I am sure! That is part of the fun. This place is very addictive.
It is interesting how the act of growing something, and particularly your own food, can bring such healing to a person's heart and mind and body. Kim, best of luck in your new adventures and personal growth. Hopefully, this will be rewarding to you and your family.
Thank you both, for joining our forum. There are a lot of people on here who are fun and helpful and it is a great place to share your successes and your blunders. Post pics if you have any and don't be afraid to ask a question or make a comment whenever you want.
Gwynn
It is interesting how the act of growing something, and particularly your own food, can bring such healing to a person's heart and mind and body. Kim, best of luck in your new adventures and personal growth. Hopefully, this will be rewarding to you and your family.
Thank you both, for joining our forum. There are a lot of people on here who are fun and helpful and it is a great place to share your successes and your blunders. Post pics if you have any and don't be afraid to ask a question or make a comment whenever you want.
Gwynn
Old Hippie- Regional Hosts
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Join date : 2010-08-12
Age : 73
Location : Canada 3b
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
bennyhannahmama
So nice to have you here. Old Hippie is right, We are a little obsessed and this place is addicting!
Lack of gardening experience certainly is no reason to hold you back. In fact Mel says that the beginner can learn Square Foot Gardening so much faster that an "old hand at gardening" because they don't have so much to unlearn (I certainly paraphrased here)
In order to start, finish the book if you haven't yet, and then get those boxes built. Even if you start with one box, that is ok. Then, get your Mel's Mix ingredients. Please try to follow the list. You just can't imagine the difference in soil from your garden and Mel's Mix.
Keep in touch and let us know how it is going for you. (by the way we love pictures, so please share)
So nice to have you here. Old Hippie is right, We are a little obsessed and this place is addicting!
Lack of gardening experience certainly is no reason to hold you back. In fact Mel says that the beginner can learn Square Foot Gardening so much faster that an "old hand at gardening" because they don't have so much to unlearn (I certainly paraphrased here)
In order to start, finish the book if you haven't yet, and then get those boxes built. Even if you start with one box, that is ok. Then, get your Mel's Mix ingredients. Please try to follow the list. You just can't imagine the difference in soil from your garden and Mel's Mix.
Keep in touch and let us know how it is going for you. (by the way we love pictures, so please share)
Furbalsmom- Posts : 3138
Join date : 2010-06-10
Age : 77
Location : Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(
Welcome
Welcome to the forum, Tracy and Kim.
It's wonderful that we are adding so many new members. Please share your successes (and failures) with us so we can all learn from them. And remember to read the book carefully. Last year I missed the single line which said that 4 cu ft of peat moss fluffs up to 8 cu ft before mixing, and I got way too much peat in my first mix.
Keep us posted on how your garden grows, and as Furbalsmom said, we love photos.
It's wonderful that we are adding so many new members. Please share your successes (and failures) with us so we can all learn from them. And remember to read the book carefully. Last year I missed the single line which said that 4 cu ft of peat moss fluffs up to 8 cu ft before mixing, and I got way too much peat in my first mix.
Keep us posted on how your garden grows, and as Furbalsmom said, we love photos.
ander217- Posts : 1450
Join date : 2010-03-16
Age : 69
Location : Southeastern Missouri (6b)
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Welcome aboard!! You have no idea what you just got your hands on. The best oiled, most efficient gardeing educating system known to man.
The people here are incredibly friendly and love to help. Pictures are worth 1000 words, so use them if you are able/willing. We love to watch others' gardens grow, too. No question should be avoided. If you have it, ask it.
We look forward to meeting you, too, and hope you stick around a long time.
The people here are incredibly friendly and love to help. Pictures are worth 1000 words, so use them if you are able/willing. We love to watch others' gardens grow, too. No question should be avoided. If you have it, ask it.
We look forward to meeting you, too, and hope you stick around a long time.
BackyardBirdGardner- Posts : 2710
Join date : 2010-12-25
Age : 50
Location : St. Louis, MO
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
welcome aboard great site great advice can b had here i'm an west of u off I-94
boog1- Posts : 256
Join date : 2010-09-01
Age : 68
Location : jackson,mi
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Welcome Kim!!! You have come to the right place! I can't wait to hear how your garden comes together.
milaneyjane- Posts : 422
Join date : 2010-03-18
Location : MN Zone 4
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Kim.....Welcome to the forum and the new job of gardening.
If you can, get your children interested. They'll love sowing radish seeds and seeing the little greens growing in days and harvesting a radish or two in 3-4 weeks. Its always fascinating for kids.
We are all here for each other, to help when we can, to share successes and yes, even our disasters. Just enjoy the experience.
Welcome,
Sandra
If you can, get your children interested. They'll love sowing radish seeds and seeing the little greens growing in days and harvesting a radish or two in 3-4 weeks. Its always fascinating for kids.
We are all here for each other, to help when we can, to share successes and yes, even our disasters. Just enjoy the experience.
Welcome,
Sandra
quiltbea- Posts : 4707
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 82
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Hi Everyone!
Not sure how I missed all these replies. Thank you all so much for the warm welcome. I cannot believe how excited I am about this. I got my boxes built over the weekend and picked up the peat moss. I plan on getting the vermiculite and compost tomorrow. I became a little cross-eyed trying to figure out how much I need of each of the 3 ingredients for 2- 4x4 boxes. Can anyone tell me the exact amounts?
Also, I've seen some discussion about people preferring to use strings instead of the lath boards. I can definitely see the advantages, but I don't want to skimp on anything! I'm trying to follow the book to the letter- lol!
Has anyone used the recycled mulch weed block? That's what I bought yesterday and I hope it works well. I will post a picture of my boxes later today.
Hope everyone is having a great Monday!
Kim
Not sure how I missed all these replies. Thank you all so much for the warm welcome. I cannot believe how excited I am about this. I got my boxes built over the weekend and picked up the peat moss. I plan on getting the vermiculite and compost tomorrow. I became a little cross-eyed trying to figure out how much I need of each of the 3 ingredients for 2- 4x4 boxes. Can anyone tell me the exact amounts?
Also, I've seen some discussion about people preferring to use strings instead of the lath boards. I can definitely see the advantages, but I don't want to skimp on anything! I'm trying to follow the book to the letter- lol!
Has anyone used the recycled mulch weed block? That's what I bought yesterday and I hope it works well. I will post a picture of my boxes later today.
Hope everyone is having a great Monday!
Kim
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
boog1 wrote:welcome aboard great site great advice can b had here i'm an west of u off I-94
Oh and I work in Jackson and live in Chelsea
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
bennyhannahmama wrote:Hi Everyone!
Not sure how I missed all these replies. Thank you all so much for the warm welcome. I cannot believe how excited I am about this. I got my boxes built over the weekend and picked up the peat moss. I plan on getting the vermiculite and compost tomorrow. I became a little cross-eyed trying to figure out how much I need of each of the 3 ingredients for 2- 4x4 boxes. Can anyone tell me the exact amounts?
Also, I've seen some discussion about people preferring to use strings instead of the lath boards. I can definitely see the advantages, but I don't want to skimp on anything! I'm trying to follow the book to the letter- lol!
Has anyone used the recycled mulch weed block? That's what I bought yesterday and I hope it works well. I will post a picture of my boxes later today.
Hope everyone is having a great Monday!
Kim
I do not know off the top of my head but I know it is in Mel's book. You have to go by volume and not weight. Watch the peat moss as it will expand to double the amount. There is a formula in the book, otherwise, you can guesstimate how much 1/3 is on each and just mix it all up, water it down and plant away!
yosoypanadero- Posts : 105
Join date : 2011-03-22
Location : Cincinnati, OH Zone 6b
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Mel's Mix Calculator
yosoypanadero- Posts : 105
Join date : 2011-03-22
Location : Cincinnati, OH Zone 6b
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
I knew someone would get that calculator in here. It is correct rest assured. But, I always like to add another 10% or so for good measure. I found my MM really settled and I would have liked to put more in.......next year's project is to top up.
Some of us use strings, and different types at that. Jute string can be tossed right in the compost when done. Some of us use lath. It's kind of a personal thing, but Mel prefers wood lath fwiw. I like string because it takes up less space in the garden, and I can space things better.
Point is: this is a debatable topic imo. The grid, itself, makes sure you are following "by the letter." No worries.
Whichever you decide, we would love to see a picture of your setup.
Some of us use strings, and different types at that. Jute string can be tossed right in the compost when done. Some of us use lath. It's kind of a personal thing, but Mel prefers wood lath fwiw. I like string because it takes up less space in the garden, and I can space things better.
Point is: this is a debatable topic imo. The grid, itself, makes sure you are following "by the letter." No worries.
Whichever you decide, we would love to see a picture of your setup.
BackyardBirdGardner- Posts : 2710
Join date : 2010-12-25
Age : 50
Location : St. Louis, MO
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
The Mel's Mix calculator is awesome-- thanks so much!
Here's a picture of my progress so far:
That's Jim, my wonderful supportive boyfriend who's helping me get this all going.
Here's a picture of my progress so far:
That's Jim, my wonderful supportive boyfriend who's helping me get this all going.
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
So I tried the calculator and it came up with 5.34 cubic feet for each of the 3 ingredients. Do you think it will be safe to just round up to 6 cubic feet? Also, since the bags obviously won't come in the exact size I need, how in the world do I estimate? Especially with the peat moss.
Thanks for your patience
Thanks for your patience
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Welcome to SFG forums! Lots of us "noobs" here... To answer your question, you should be fine rounding up. If you have extra, just store in the bags that the the compost or vermiculite or peat came in. It will settle a lot, so you will probably be just fine though...
ashort- Posts : 518
Join date : 2011-02-17
Age : 56
Location : Frisco, TX zone 8a
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Definitely round up. MM settles and it really takes more than it technically "should." I also like to throw in a bit extra compost, especially.
elliephant- Posts : 841
Join date : 2010-04-09
Age : 49
Location : southern tip of Texas zone 9
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
It can be difficult to estimate when you are dealing with cubic feet vs pounds vs whatever so it can take a bit of eyballing and maybe some google conversions on your part. As long as it is close enough to 1/3 each you are going to be just fine. The plants won't be upset, as far as I know! Just remember the peat moss is actually double the amount that is on the package.
yosoypanadero- Posts : 105
Join date : 2011-03-22
Location : Cincinnati, OH Zone 6b
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Always round up. Leftovers are a good thing.
A lot of us use a 5 gal bucket as a measuring cup. I'll throw in this reminder too, don't forget to uncompress the peat moss!
A lot of us use a 5 gal bucket as a measuring cup. I'll throw in this reminder too, don't forget to uncompress the peat moss!
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
Nice idea with the buckets, I would have never thought of that. How many cubic feet are in a 5 gallon bucket - the google God's probably know....
yosoypanadero- Posts : 105
Join date : 2011-03-22
Location : Cincinnati, OH Zone 6b
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
yosoypanadero wrote:Nice idea with the buckets, I would have never thought of that. How many cubic feet are in a 5 gallon bucket - the google God's probably know....
Dry 5 gallons = .77 cu ft
Liquid 5 gallons = .66 cu ft
I'm sorry I don't understand the difference.
For my purposes, when using the 5 gallon buckets, I assumed dry measurements, because I was measuring dry ingredients and I rounded 5 gallons to equal .75 cu ft.
Furbalsmom- Posts : 3138
Join date : 2010-06-10
Age : 77
Location : Coastal Oregon, Zone 9a, Heat Zone 2 :(
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
if u work in jackson an live in chelsa u drive by my place then
boog
boog
boog1- Posts : 256
Join date : 2010-09-01
Age : 68
Location : jackson,mi
Re: Brand Spanking New Gardener! (In Michigan)
For my purposes, when using the 5 gallon buckets, I assumed dry
measurements, because I was measuring dry ingredients and I rounded 5
gallons to equal .75 cu ft.
I think this will be very helpful for me-- thanks!
I will wave next time I drive byif u work in jackson an live in chelsa u drive by my place then
bennyhannahmama- Posts : 34
Join date : 2011-03-25
Location : Ann Arbor, Michigan vicinity
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