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Post  sanderson 12/4/2021, 12:32 pm

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What did you plant in the containers? You can plant some small and/or quick veggies around the perimeter if it isn't too hot this spring, such as radishes, lettuce, or a couple Swiss chard. The container looks deep enough that there should be enough Mel's Mix in the inner square foot to also support these other plants.

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Post  Simso 12/4/2021, 7:20 pm

The containers are 500mm round and 30cm deep, worked out theyare 2.18square feet 

The first container I have a kent pumkin growing and the second a watermelon, good call re perimeter planting with radishes or lettuces
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Post  sanderson 12/4/2021, 9:36 pm

Consider:  Melons, winter squash, cucumbers, gourds, and of course pole beans or peas, can be grown up a vertical trellis or arch to save ground or bed space. Wink

Saving square footage by growing up:
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Post  Simso 12/5/2021, 12:46 am

Nice, i just have to consider maximising my sun position, at the best I can get 6hrs of sunlight, anyhting I grow up on the grass / garden bed line will impact my afternoon sun, so hence the melons and pumkins and growing down rather than up
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Post  Simso 12/5/2021, 3:25 am

Taken me two and a bit months to prepare the area, clean the old plants out.

Starting to look like a garden again

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Post  Simso 12/5/2021, 3:33 am

My before photo, compleltey overgrown with a lavender, lemon grass, i just partitioned it off and it became the chicken area, now my chickens are not happy with me Smile

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Post  markqz 12/5/2021, 2:43 pm

Those frames look very sturdy. It occurs to me that if you built your garden at 5 or 6 feet high, you might get an extra hour of sunlight. You could put chickens or storage underneath  Very Happy
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Post  Simso 12/11/2021, 5:59 am

The frames are working better than I had hoped, there are holes all up each side for I guess bolting attachments too, works perfect for running some clothesline cable through, instant trellis

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Post  sanderson 12/14/2021, 12:15 am

That's great.  If you find you need vertical runs, you can tie strings to the top rung and make half hitches as you go down.  

I made this emergency trellis for the bush peas at final sundown.  I started with adding 4 vertical strings tied at the top and bottom.  Then I made the horizontal strings using a half hitch.
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Bring it back towards you and continue on to the right.  It got dark so quickly that I ended up with large spaces.  I will be doing it again, hopefully.  I know your permanent runs are horizontal, but if you turn your head sideways, you will get the idea.   geek

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This was my first attempt in 2014.  After I was done, I realized my mistakes.  But, you get the idea.  When the beans or peas are harvested, you can cut the and remove the strings to attach the tomatoes or winter squash, etc. to just the permanent horizontal wires.
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Post  Simso 12/19/2021, 2:04 am

Was going to turn the area into a greenhouse, but with sensible advice from others have refrained, I have however started to cover the roof area, it has 90 percent light transmission.
i will hang some bird netting across the front hopefully next week, our summers are pretty harsh, 40 deg c is not uncommon, 35c and above is our typical summer range

All my baby capsicums and chillis are gone, eaten of to the stem, my sunflower has been attacked, need to seal it a little bit

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Post  Simso 12/19/2021, 2:13 am

@sanderson wrote:That's great.  If you find you need vertical runs, you can tie strings to the top rung and make half hitches as you go down.  

I made this emergency trellis for the bush peas at final sundown.  I started with adding 4 vertical strings tied at the top and bottom.  Then I made the horizontal strings using a half hitch.
I took some of your ideas and ran some verticals inter twined with the horizontals, hard to see as they are green as well
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Post  sanderson 12/20/2021, 8:53 pm

@Simso wrote:Was going to turn the area into a greenhouse, but with sensible advice from others have refrained, I have however started to cover the roof area, it has 90 percent light transmission.
i will hang some bird netting across the front hopefully next week, our summers are pretty harsh, 40 deg c is not uncommon, 35c and above is our typical summer range
My summers get up to 43-44*C (110-111*F) and sun shade is a life saver. Is the cover a transparent plastic?

All my baby capsicums and chillis are gone, eaten of to the stem, my sunflower has been attacked, need to seal it a little bit
Oh, no!  Birds?  Or, snails/slugs/rolly pollies/earwigs?  For the later I lightly sprinkle Sluggo PLUS (iron phosphate with spinosad) which is organic rated.

Yes, I can see the vertical runs when I enlarge the photo.

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Post  Simso 12/20/2021, 9:31 pm

Yes transparent plastic, it does reduce the lighting by 10 percent apparently, the one thing I do not like is  it also cuts theuv, which IMO is good for plants

I will just net the sides this weekend, so I dont restrict airflow and allow the heat to build.

We have some 40 degree days this week, so going to go up and get some shade cloth that I can clip into place on those hot days and remove on days below 35c

We live opposite a park, which is good and bad, at 5am in the morning all you can hear is birds, galahs, parrots, magpies, crows, pigeons, litrally every breed of bird you could imagine, so tasty morning snacks for them
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Post  Simso 12/23/2021, 4:51 am

Managed to get some curtain wire from ikea.

When not in use I can store the shade cloth at one end.

On days when its 36c or greater, tomorrow being 38, then a 42 and another 42, i can pull it out and give some light shading (only 20 percent shade cloth) to my more leafy plants in the grow beds from 1pm onwards, peak heat typically hits us in perth at around 2pm
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Post  Simso 12/30/2021, 8:38 pm

Unloaded the composter today, mixed it in with two other sources of compost

So have a sourced vegie compost
A mushroom compost
My back yard compost which has small amounts of chicken poop in the mix

Is this too much or too little of a re-add

My new mix

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Post  sanderson 1/5/2022, 2:09 pm

If you are just doing fast succession planting, one or two hand trowels may be enough. For overwinter, bucket fulls may be needed to bring the level overall level in the bed back up to the original height.

I say overwinter, because the compost will continue to decompose into smaller and more usable material for providing nutrients.

I think of the process of adding compost as providing nutrients to be available at a later time. That is, for summer crops, I add new compost in the fall. For winter crops, they are using the compost I added in the spring.


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Post  Simso 1/6/2022, 3:46 am

My sfg is officially one month old yesterday

Have harvested 8 lettuces, 32 radishes so far from it.

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Post  OhioGardener 1/6/2022, 7:53 am

@Simso wrote:My sfg is officially one month old yesterday

Have harvested 8 lettuces, 32 radishes so far from it.

With a lot more to come!  Congratulations on your progress!
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