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Steves first SFG
So after gardening conventionally for 30yrs and growing up on a farm have embarked in the SFG gardening field.
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Re: Steves first SFG
Problem is soil is sandy, so frames are sinking with nothing on them, going to have to put some foundation work into the ground to support the frames
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Re: Steves first SFG
Lined with weed matting and ready to fill the first one, raked up all my saw dust and put it in the bottom as well
Its deeper than I need, 12 inches in depth, want to grow carrots and root vegies as well, so bit extra cost in my soil mix, but its a once investment and everythign so far has cost me next to nothing except for labour
Its deeper than I need, 12 inches in depth, want to grow carrots and root vegies as well, so bit extra cost in my soil mix, but its a once investment and everythign so far has cost me next to nothing except for labour
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That's an amazing set-up! Over here, there's been a run on lumber, so getting everything nearly free is a real coup !
Do you know if the wood has been chemically treated? Some people might worry about that sawdust. Just mentioning before you put in the expensive MM.
Do you know if the wood has been chemically treated? Some people might worry about that sawdust. Just mentioning before you put in the expensive MM.
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Just a caution on sawdust. It will tie up nitrogen while it decomposes. My thought is a couple handfuls of ammonium nitrate sprinkled over the sawdust and mixed it. ??
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I did not know that. Dang, will do a bit material shuffling
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Steve, The more I think about it, the more I think you should remove the sawdust. Period. And, the boards lining the inside, unless they are structurally necessary. If you need a filler for the lower part of the beds, you can use clean sand. The beds are 12" deep = 2-3" of sand, 7-9" of Mel's Mix and 1" summer mulch. ??
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Cool, i only put sawdust in one of them, i just removed the bulk of the mels mix and then scraped it clean of the dust, so now i have some mels mix and sawdust on the ground, will dig that through the dirt
The inner wood frame is actually screwed to my outer sides and the base with the weed matt between them, so kind of need it structurally so nothing bows, they are just ht
The inner wood frame is actually screwed to my outer sides and the base with the weed matt between them, so kind of need it structurally so nothing bows, they are just ht
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Re: Steves first SFG
Drilling holes for the water spray.
According to mels square gardening book, he saids to drill qty 2 - 3/16 holes in every pipe, thats approx 4.7mm in hole size which I thought was huge, with the grid layout, some squares will have 8 - 3/16 watering holes covering the square compared to other squares which will only have 4 water feed holes
Am i overthinking this, or should i drill out each section so it only has 4 spray holes and is 3/16 to big?
After that I then have to make the decision do i use house water or bore water, my bore water which i use for our garen beds is crystal clear but high in calcium as we have a limestone base under us which filters the water
Steve
According to mels square gardening book, he saids to drill qty 2 - 3/16 holes in every pipe, thats approx 4.7mm in hole size which I thought was huge, with the grid layout, some squares will have 8 - 3/16 watering holes covering the square compared to other squares which will only have 4 water feed holes
Am i overthinking this, or should i drill out each section so it only has 4 spray holes and is 3/16 to big?
After that I then have to make the decision do i use house water or bore water, my bore water which i use for our garen beds is crystal clear but high in calcium as we have a limestone base under us which filters the water
Steve
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Re: Steves first SFG
Simso wrote:According to mels square gardening book, he saids to drill qty 2 - 3/16 holes in every pipe, thats approx 4.7mm in hole size which I thought was huge, with the grid layout, some squares will have 8 - 3/16 watering holes covering the square compared to other squares which will only have 4 water feed holes
I use drip hose myself, in order to be sure the quantities are regular.
I think (but am not sure) that the book literally means only two holes per pipe -- no holes on the opposite side of the pipe. You can kind of see this going on in pictures 4 and 5 on page 175. If you arrange things properly, that means every square is watered by just two holes. Which means that 3/16" isn't that big. But maybe someone who has used this configuration can wade in.
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Re: Steves first SFG
When designing/implementing a drip irrigation system, one must consider the water pressure on the feed line. As an example, I use 1/4" driplines with emitters ever 6" along the line. Each of those emitters has a different flow rate based on the water pressure on the line:
10psi - 0.42 GPH per emitter
20psi - 0.60 GPH per emitter
30psi - 0.80 GPH per emitter
I have a 20# pressure regulator on my line, so each emitter provides just over 1/2 gallon per hour. I experimented with 10psi, 20psi, and 30psi to determine the best watering level for my beds.
The same experimenting would have to be done with holes drilled in piping - how much water flows based on the pressure regulator?
10psi - 0.42 GPH per emitter
20psi - 0.60 GPH per emitter
30psi - 0.80 GPH per emitter
I have a 20# pressure regulator on my line, so each emitter provides just over 1/2 gallon per hour. I experimented with 10psi, 20psi, and 30psi to determine the best watering level for my beds.
The same experimenting would have to be done with holes drilled in piping - how much water flows based on the pressure regulator?
"In short, the soil food web feeds everything you eat and helps keep your favorite planet from getting too hot. Be nice to it." ~ Diane Miessler, "Grow Your Soil"
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