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Wyldflower 5/27/2010, 9:46 pm

Okay... not really failure, but a learning experience.

I tried fastening my conduit with the elbows, and did okay with inserting the elbow into the conduit on both ends of the crosspiece. Then when I started to insert into the upright, one of the elbows broke. So now I know that this won't work. I'll be heading to Home Depot tomorrow to pick up some of those pulling elbows that you suggested, Ralitaco.

I'm also setting aside my 'macrame' net for a shorter trellis that I'll make later. (I didn't cut the twine long enough to make a net that will end up 6' long once it's stretched out.)

Oh well... live and learn!

ralitaco 5/27/2010, 10:11 pm

what was it edison said...something like "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways not to make a lightbulb"

Megan 5/28/2010, 3:09 pm

I just bought my connectors, and now that I am playing with them, I finally I understand what the HD associate was trying to tell me.

The inside diameter of the threaded pulling elbow is significantly larger than that of the set screw connector... which means if you use the set screw on the pulling elbow alone, you are relying heavily on that screw, versus screw plus friction contact between your conduit and the sleeve of the set screw connector.

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Wyldflower 5/28/2010, 4:49 pm

Thanks, Megan... I'm going to HD after work today, and it's good to have this info before I go make my purchases!

boffer 5/28/2010, 4:59 pm

This is what it would look like using a 12 inch piece of rebar~ 50 cents?

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Here's some ideas how to do it. There's some other old school methods that I didn't take pix of.

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You could 'crimp' the EMT with a hammer to secure the rebar-or if your rebar was long enough, it would probably stay together pretty good as is.

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Megan 5/28/2010, 5:02 pm

Do we call that the "person with muscle, hammer and anvil" method? Very Happy

Wyldflower 5/28/2010, 5:03 pm

Boffer - That's a possibility.... except that I don't have the right tools to make the bend in it. (I don't have the vise grip, or the sledge hammer. or the steel pipe - though I do have a grandson who has the muscle to try to make this happen!)

Megan... maybe we should start calling Boffer "THOR"...

I can see, though, that I'll be wandering around HD this afternoon to see what I can find!

boffer 5/28/2010, 5:11 pm

Wyldflower wrote:though I do have a grandson who has the muscle to try to make this happen!

I kinda assumed you'd delegate this to your grandson who visits often!

Okay, put the rebar inside your conduit with half sticking out and lay it on concrete. Lay a 2x4 on top of the rebar so the end is near the conduit. Drive a car tire onto the 2x4. Use the conduit to lift and bend the rebar. Been there, done that.

Even Claire could have made this bend!

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Wyldflower 5/28/2010, 5:15 pm

Aha! Now I think I know what Tal and I are going to do tomorrow, when his sister is having her birthday party (She's 17, and doesn't want her grandma OR her kid brother around!)

Thanks, Thor!

Megan 5/28/2010, 5:16 pm

I have to admit I am a bit chagrined, because I saw that same 12" rebar when I was there at HD. In fact, all they had was 1-ft, 4-ft, and 10-ft... I bought 4-ft and conned hubby into cutting it down for me. But I think cutting with a grinder would be a lot easier than trying to bend it. We do not have a vise grip or maul big enough to do a nice, neat 90-degree bend like that.

And I agree, we should call it the Thor Method! Very Happy

I did find some really nice wire grid 4' x 7' right next to the rebar, about $7.50 a grid. The only reason I didn't get it was I think the netting would look nicer in the front yard, and the flexible netting might be easier for me to work with, especially with the squash I am now thinking I want to try to trellis. If I was working in my backyard I'd get the grid in an instant, though.

boffer 5/28/2010, 5:19 pm

Wyld,

Put on your McGyver hat! We're about the same age. As a teenager, didn't you use a car door latch to open your beer bottles! (this was pre twist off days!)

Oh, that's right, that's what boyfriends were for! darn funny

Maybe a neighbor has a vise-it only takes two seconds

Wyldflower 5/28/2010, 5:23 pm

boffer wrote:... that's right, that's what boyfriends were for!

Yep....

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... I still could use one of those!

Ole Joe Clark 5/28/2010, 7:03 pm

I purchased a conduit bender from a lady that had conduit and bender, I think I gave $12 for the bender.

Check Craigslist for your area, under tools or materials for sale, you never can tell what will pop up. By the way there is a search feature.

Leon

Megan 5/28/2010, 8:39 pm

We just finished cutting our rebar; it was easy with the grinder. I hope to have my trellises up before the weekend is out -- have to get the rest of the sod up and the irrigation system in, first.

That is a great price for the bender, Leon. The smallest one I could find at HD was $31.

pattipan 5/28/2010, 9:17 pm

boffer wrote:
Okay, put the rebar inside your conduit with half sticking out and lay it on concrete. Lay a 2x4 on top of the rebar so the end is near the conduit. Drive a car tire onto the 2x4. Use the conduit to lift and bend the rebar. Been there, done that.

Did you learn that one from Red Green? I'm user I saw him do that, only he tried to automate the process AND used some duct tape. And as I recall...there was not much of the car left when he was done! But he did bend the pipe.

Patti

P.S. If you don't know who Red Green is, he's usually on PBS on Saturday nights. Boffer's Thor-like inventiveness reminds me of him!

boffer 5/28/2010, 10:31 pm

Red Green is funny! I don't know how we survived this long with all our fingers and eyeballs intact! I forgot what era we're in now, so here's the rest of the instructions:

Spoiler:

Megan 5/28/2010, 10:40 pm

I....think I will stick with the grinder. ;-)

Wyldflower 5/29/2010, 1:31 am

LOL... great advice, Thor!

I'll let you know tomorrow, how this goes!

Wyldflower 5/29/2010, 1:34 am

Ole Joe Clark wrote:Check Craigslist for your area, under tools or materials for sale, you never can tell what will pop up. By the way there is a search feature.
Leon

I LOVE Craigslist! that's where I got my Trex boards for practically nothing. I check it pretty much daily - you never know what someone will have that you need or want (I just missed out on a Dutch door for my back door.)

Gonna keep checking - and go to HD with the boy-child tomorrow morning.

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