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Winter Rye Grass
I thought I'd be smart and plant rye seeds in the fall in my SFG. ( Read that I could turn it over and get nitrogen in the spring.) Have a healthy stand of grass and roots are so thick I can't pull it up by hand and don't want to punch holes in my landscape cloth under the soil using a garden rake or hoe. Any ideas?
csantamaria- Posts : 8
Join date : 2010-03-19
Re: Winter Rye Grass
Keep it cut so it does not flower. You can use the top growth in the compost pile or as mulch over the beds. You can plant through it things like squash and cabbages. plants that are big enough to not get lost in it. Keep the grass cut until it plays out in the hot weather. It will all rot eventually and leave you the richer.
I hope you did not do all the beds? If you did you might need cut the sod formed into strips. Shake your mix out and then use the grass in the compost (roots too) or use it as mulch.
I am assuming this is annual ryegrass.....
Good luck
I hope you did not do all the beds? If you did you might need cut the sod formed into strips. Shake your mix out and then use the grass in the compost (roots too) or use it as mulch.
I am assuming this is annual ryegrass.....
Good luck
Turan- Posts : 2618
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4
Rye Grass
Thanks so much. I'll not do that again! I put it in two 4x8 sections. Beautiful here in VA. Happy Easter!
csantamaria- Posts : 8
Join date : 2010-03-19
Rye starting to grow...
Another bed ready for winters sleep. Rye starting to come up....
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 88
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Winter Rye Grass
which is it, cereal or annual rye? also , have you tried to grow the rye with or garden plants or is it too much competition? looks good.
has55- Posts : 2345
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx
Re: Winter Rye Grass
The center I purchase it from calls it rye grain, I think the same as cereal rye. it's a heavy growth that stay robust.has55 wrote:which is it, cereal or annual rye? also , have you tried to grow the rye with or garden plants or is it too much competition? looks good.
No I don't plant with others, just use it as a cover crop during the off season.
jimmy cee
Certified SFG Instructor- Posts : 2215
Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 88
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Winter Rye Grass
does it winter kill? how do you use it? I f not winter kill, how do you get it incorporated for the soil food web> Have you seen a change in your plants condition (better or worse) since you been using it? I plan to order this for my retired summer beds- Fall Green Manure Mix Cover Crop Seedjimmy cee wrote:The center I purchase it from calls it rye grain, I think the same as cereal rye. it's a heavy growth that stay robust.has55 wrote:which is it, cereal or annual rye? also , have you tried to grow the rye with or garden plants or is it too much competition? looks good.
No I don't plant with others, just use it as a cover crop during the off season.
has55- Posts : 2345
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx
Re: Winter Rye Grass
Rye stays green throughout the winter, even under snow....Last season I became concerned about the roots, they were deep and throughout the beds so I dug lot up and left lots there. after 2-3 weeks roots were all gone. This time I will just cut the rye down and let it all decay by itself. Probably a month before planting.has55 wrote:
does it winter kill? how do you use it? I f not winter kill, how do you get it incorporated for the soil food web> Have you seen a change in your plants condition (better or worse) since you been using it? I plan to order this for my retired summer beds- Fall Green Manure Mix Cover Crop Seed
No change in plant growth, I started using compost tea and I believe that in itself overtakes all else.
jimmy cee
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Join date : 2013-02-16
Age : 88
Location : Hatfield PA. zone 6b
Re: Winter Rye Grass
from what I learned from Dr. Ingham and Gabe Brown, you can leaves the roots in and plant right next to them, esp daikon. I'm going to use the daikon in my tomatoes beds next year. it's like a more fungi soil since it it's approaching a tree like structure according to what I read. I believe it's in the research journey videos. all post more as I find out. Thanks for the info. was it cereal rye or annual rye?
has55- Posts : 2345
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx
Re: Winter Rye Grass
Leaving the root mats in a SFG box defeats the purpose of having a 6 inch deep friable mix and doesn't lend itself to best growing conditions.has55 wrote:from what I learned from Dr. Ingham and Gabe Brown, you can leaves the roots in and plant right next to them, esp daikon. I'm going to use the daikon in my tomatoes beds next year. it's like a more fungi soil since it it's approaching a tree like structure according to what I read. I believe it's in the research journey videos. all post more as I find out. Thanks for the info. was it cereal rye or annual rye?
Cover crops and green manures are not recommended for the average SFG, as evidenced by the OP query.
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