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Post  Shoda 4/20/2010, 5:21 pm

Last year my three kids and I had our first vegetable garden together. We enjoyed it more then we could have imagined except got frustrated with the gophers, squirrels and raccoons who wanted part of the action. So, we decided to start over from scratch and build raised garden beds. The SFG method seemed perfect for us!

We redesigned our garden area so that it would have 3-foot wide paths and a more interesting layout. Here is our plan.

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We split the work into three phases. Phase one involves building, setting up and planting boxes A, B and C. Once those are growing, we will setup boxes D and E. Box F setup will wait until our strawberries are finished for the season and then we will move them into the new garden box.

As many of you may already know from my previous posts, I am doing this project alone with the infrequent help of my kids. I am really enjoying it and have not had to ask my husband for help other then the cutting of the PVC hoop supports (I am still afraid of the power miter).

After three days of very hard work and pain due to sore back, bruises, cuts on hands and smashed fingers, phase one is ready for Mel's Mix. Each box is made of 2 x 6 finished redwood that has been sealed with a clear soy based product. They are stacked two high so that we can grow root vegetables wherever we want and to make it a little easier to maintain. The sides and corners are secured with metal brackets because the boxes were not lining up and a few of my boards were warped. I also wanted to be sure the two layers didn't shift once filled. The boxes have hardware cloth bottoms secured with staples in order to keep the gophers and moles away (hence the cut hands and smashed fingers). The water supply is underground and we will be using the buried soaker hose technique this year.

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I also added PVC hoop supports to the sides of each box. Because our boxes are longer than 4 feet, we could not use the crisscrossed technique that Mel describes in his book. Here is a close-up of the bracket:

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And the bracket in use:

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As of this posting, we have added some Mel's Mix to the bottoms of the boxes but we ran out of time and it started to rain. Probably for the best as my body needs a few days off to recover.

I have included more pictures in the gallery for those who are interested. https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/gallery/Personal-album-of-shoda/Personal-album-of-shoda-cat_u638.htm

Thanks for looking at my garden!
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Post  Retired Member 1 4/20/2010, 5:26 pm

That is a wonderful looking garden. I wished my boxes looked even a half as good, not stratch that -- I wish they looked 1/4th as good.

Hope your children will become more involved now that the "grunt" work is over.
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Post  AFLfan 4/20/2010, 5:30 pm

Awesome stuff! I love that you have a fenced-in area, dedicated to the veggie gardens. Very cool! I hope your kids enjoy working with you. I am trying to get my boys into it (ages 6 and Cool, but they are hesitant at-best.
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Post  Ellie0505 4/20/2010, 5:33 pm

It looks awesome! You're doing a great job.
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Post  NancyD 4/20/2010, 6:37 pm

Your garden looks awesome! I only have 2 4x4 beds right now, and am trying to design something more interesting looking before I add more. Your garden is very inspiring!!

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Post  new2this 4/21/2010, 8:21 am

That is so awesome, Shoda....all of that hard work! Wow....I can't wait to see more pictures in a few weeks! Thanks for sharing.
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Post  happyfrog 4/21/2010, 8:44 am

i LOVE your boxes!

and your hoop holders - thanks for sharing close up pics of that.


what size pvc did you use for the pvc holders and what size pvc for the hoops?

i want to copy you correctly. *grin*

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who is working on garden box expansion as well. Smile and now i want it to look like yours!
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Post  ander217 4/21/2010, 10:12 am

Your garden looks wonderful. Good for you, doing it all yourself!
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Post  martha 4/21/2010, 11:56 am

You are an inspiration!
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Post  mckr3441 4/21/2010, 1:02 pm

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Post  Shoda 4/21/2010, 3:56 pm

Thank you for all your kind comments!

Happyfrog - I got the hoop holder idea from the Sunset Garden website. The hoop holders are 1" PVC and the PVC for the hoop is a 6' long piece of 1/2" PVC. Here is a link to the Sunset raised bed instructions where I got the idea. http://www.sunset.com/garden/perfect-raised-bed-00400000039550/ I think it is on instruction page 3 or 4. I also purchased some 3/4" PVC Threaded plugs to put in the top holes of the hoop holders when not in use so they don't fill up with dirt and stuff.

We are expecting a sunny weekend so I plan on getting those beds finished and planted!
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Post  timwardell 4/21/2010, 4:27 pm

Congratulations shoda! You have a very impressive set up and should be very proud of yourself! Well done. You earn a dancing banana, the forums highest honor. rock on
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Post  Theresa 4/21/2010, 9:15 pm

You have done some outstanding work! The SFGs look great and I can't wait to see all the great things to come!
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Post  Shoda 4/22/2010, 7:24 pm

Tim -- Thank you for the honor of the dancing banana! (eyes misting over). What an honor!
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Post  pauliek 4/22/2010, 9:30 pm

Hi!

Great looking garden! What soy based stain did you use? It would be nice to have a natural stain that will protect the wood, and won't poison your veggies!

Have fun!

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Post  Shoda 4/23/2010, 12:02 am

I used Clear Soyguard. I am not sure how welll it will hold up. The product said to only apply one coat and it took a couple days for the oil of the product to dry. They also said to re-coat in 2 years. They do offer it with color so we figured if the beds needed color help in a few years we would put redwood color on them. For now, they look pretty good the way they are.

I live in the SF Bay area. I could not find this product in the East Bay where I live but found it easily in Berkely at the Ace Hardware store there. It can also be ordered over the net. It was rather pricey (I think it was $40 for a gallon) but I only used half of that for the first phase of our project.
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Post  chocolatepop 4/23/2010, 12:21 am

absolutely wonderfully gorgeous.
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Post  Shoda 5/1/2010, 2:06 am

I finished the first three beds last weekend. The kids and I have been slowly planting the seedlings we started months ago along with new seeds. Here is an updated picture.
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My 15 year old daughter enjoys making the plant markers something special.

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For more pictures see my personal album.

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Post  Linda 5/2/2010, 10:39 am

Hi Shoda,

I have rented an allotment from the City of Toronto. My plot is 28 ft by 22 ft and has not been worked in years by the looks of it. My new garden plot is covered with weeds of every description.

This past week at work a co-worker introduce me to the concept of sfg which intriged me and thought this could work nicely for me. Before leaving to tackle my weeds yesterday I decided to do some more research on sfg which I came across your blog.

That was it - I just love what you have done - I love the creativity you have brought to sfg with the different size, shape and irregular layout of your containers. Brilliant.

Before I embark on the design of my own garden can you please confirm if I am correct in assuming that each square of your design layout accounts for one square foot. Hence, your garden measures approximately 24 ft x 18 ft.

Thank you for your time.

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Post  Shoda 5/2/2010, 11:20 am

Linda, thank you for the complements! Yes, in the garden layout each square is one square foot. It is approx. 18x24. We have room for two 4x8 beds, 2 4x6 beds and several smaller beds as shown.

I love the way our garden is turning out and I feel driven to do more garden beds to finish it up. I am trying very hard to control myself for a week because my housework has gotten behind, my work is calling and my body is still sore from the physical labor. But it is SO worth it! All I have to do is sit in the corner of my garden and I am filled with joy watching everything growing.

The only thing I might do differently with the next bed is the buried soaker hose. Our beds are 11" deep and I put the soaker hose at 6" down. This is too far down considering Mel's Mix is below the hoses. What is happening is that no matter how long we run the hoses, the top 2" say dry.

For the remaining beds, I think I will put them 3" down. I have the hoses running directly under the grid lines so as not to interfere with the planting. I am then going to test them out before I plant anything to make sure that the water is able to soak upward.

For the beds I already planted, I think I am just going to have to do some surface watering until the seedlings put down roots far enough to reach my water source.

Please share your garden pictures with us when you get going. We love seeing everyones garden as it keeps us all inspired!
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Post  timcos 5/2/2010, 6:28 pm

I love the layout and the planning...looks like it is coming together well.

You, no doubt, will be handily rewarded.

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