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Post  AtlantaMarie 3/5/2016, 1:20 pm

Got some seeds planted last night. We'll see how it goes. I've been told it's very difficult to get them to germinate...
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Post  CapeCoddess 3/5/2016, 2:53 pm

AtlantaMarie wrote:Got some seeds planted last night.  We'll see how it goes.  I've been told it's very difficult to get them to germinate...
True. And they take a long time to germinate. I hope you overseeded.
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Post  AtlantaMarie 3/5/2016, 8:22 pm

Oh, yeah... I think I stuck 5 or 6 in the one peat pot.
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Post  sanderson 9/29/2018, 6:32 pm

I'm trying my hand at making stevia extract.  I'm wondering if commercially dried stevia for sugar substitute is also brown? I tried to pull out the 2 plants but they were stubborn. Then I read through this thread and realize they should over-winter here in Zone 9-A.

Dried leaves seeping in cheap vodka.  I only seeped for 24 hours. Stevia - Page 4 Stevia10

Strained, then simmered for 20 minutes in a rigged double-boiler on how.  There was just enough liquid for a single 2 oz. tincture bottle (ever the optimist, I bought a box of a dozen).  I have a new batch seeping that I will process tomorrow.  I will also try a water batch instead of vodka. In the background on the right is a jar of beef marrow bone broth settling to let the fat rise and any solids settle to the bottom.  Stevia - Page 4 Stevia11

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Post  countrynaturals 8/31/2019, 10:49 pm

sanderson wrote:Zero.  I do not like licorice.
Thank goodness. I don't like licorice, either. Razz

I planted 6 seeds. One sprouted. As soon as it gets a few more leaves, I'll taste one.
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Post  countrynaturals 9/11/2019, 5:20 pm

Patty from Yorktown wrote:I have grown Stevia, my plant was not tree size. It would have fit 1 per square. Stevia in it's natural state has a slight black licorice taste. It is becoming more well known, so you might be able to find it in a nursery. My plant is about 5 years old. It dies down during our winter. We our zone 7. I had gone looking for herbs and ask the owner if he had anything unusual. That question always gets an interesting response. Hope this helps.

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Mine is called Candy Stevia, from High Mowing Organic Seeds. Absolutely NO licorice flavor whatsoever! happy turtle
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Post  countrynaturals 9/11/2019, 5:25 pm

gridgardener wrote:starting stevia from seed is not easy
I only got 1 out of 6 to sprout. I'm gonna plant 6 more today. Fingers crossed cuz they only sent me 25 seeds -- gotta make 'em count. geek
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Post  OhioGardener 9/11/2019, 5:39 pm

Three things are important for the germination of Stevia seeds: Moisture, Light, and Heat (they are tropical plants).  Push the pointed end of the seed into a moist soilless starter mix so that the end of the seed is flush, or just above the soil line; Place the pot in a heat mat under lights or on a very sunny window; and Spray or mist the soil a couple times a day to keep half-inch or so constantly moist. You should see sprouts in about two weeks.

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Post  countrynaturals 9/11/2019, 5:41 pm

CapeCoddess wrote:The seeds that weren't quite ready to come off yet are being collected in a baggie: Stevia - Page 4 02010
Every time I pull a few leaves off to use, a few more seeds fall into the baggie.
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Can't wait to try this, since there were so few seeds in the store-bought packet. I might just give stevia plants as Christmas gifts if I can get enough of them to grow.
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Post  countrynaturals 9/11/2019, 6:04 pm

sanderson wrote:Wow!  Now I'm hopeful I can keep mine going.  I bought it in the fall and it is still alive without winter protection.
So, is it still alive? bounce
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Post  countrynaturals 9/11/2019, 6:11 pm

OhioGardener wrote:Three things are important for the germination of Stevia seeds: Moisture, Light, and Heat (they are tropical plants).  Push the pointed end of the seed into a moist soilless starter mix so that the end of the seed is flush, or just above the soil line; Place the pot in a heat mat under lights or on a very sunny window; and Spray or mist the soil a couple times a day to keep half-inch or so constantly moist. You should see sprouts in about two weeks.
Awesome! I use Jiffy Pellets, but I didn't know to stand the little guys on their heads. thankyou
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Post  markqz 3/11/2020, 6:55 pm

Boy these seeds are small ...

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Post  sanderson 3/12/2020, 5:20 am

Mark, I had a hard time germinating stevia. The good news is that it is a perennial in our mild climate so buying one at HD is worth it.

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Post  OhioGardener 3/12/2020, 10:14 am

I had read that Stevia is very hard to start, and has a low germination rate of about 10%. But, when I decided to experiment with them, 12 out of 15 seeds germinated within a week.  I filled a pot with my homemade potting soil and covered it with about 1/8" of medium Vermiculite (the type HD sells). I misted the vermiculite with water until it was saturated, and then sprinkled the Stevia seeds over it without pressing them in. Lightly misted them again, and covered them with a clear plastic dome before putting under LED grow lights. Four or five days later sprouts started appearing. The seeds need light and moisture to germinate.  Probably the quality and freshness of the seeds have a lot to do with their germination rate, too.

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Post  Dan in Ct 3/12/2020, 11:13 am

OhioGardener, Thank you. Making a note of this, Stevia needs light and use vermiculite with light misting. I bought seeds and tried for a couple of years when there was big talk that Stevia was an excellent alternative to regular sugars. It is always nice to find out years later where one's plan went wrong. May try again next year, way to much to try and get done this year. I am not procrastinating because I gave that up for Lent.
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Post  Kelejan 3/16/2020, 12:57 pm

markqz wrote:Boy these seeds are small ...

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Don't breathe too heavily, markqz.
Incidentally, I have cut down my sugar use and instead using stevia for my coffee.
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Post  markqz 3/16/2020, 5:54 pm

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Don't breathe too heavily, markqz.
Incidentally, I have cut down my sugar use and instead using stevia for my coffee.

With the Corona virus and everything, I haven't breathed for days.  Smile

Was that your own, home-grown stevia?

What I found when I wanted stevia a year or two ago was that a lot of stuff on the market called "stevia" was actually a little bit of stevia cut with a lot of some other sweetener (xylenol ?). In the end, I figured I might as well go with Splenda. But yeah, if I could grow stevia it would be great (hasn't germinated yet).

I've trained myself over the years to drink coffee without sweetener, so now I don't use it at all in coffee. I read a report somewhere that said that sociopaths tend to drink coffee black, so maybe I'm just becoming more sociopathic Shocked
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Post  Kelejan 3/16/2020, 6:08 pm

Sociopathic?  Does it hurts?
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Post  OhioGardener 3/16/2020, 6:47 pm

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I read a report somewhere that said that sociopaths tend to drink coffee black, so maybe I'm just becoming more sociopathic Shocked

That is funny!  But then, maybe I am a sociopath, too!  I learned to drink military coffee, strong and black, and haven't been able to drink it any other way since.

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Post  markqz 8/20/2020, 5:32 pm

I haven't any luck with stevia. Once more into the breach!

This time the seeds are from Johnny's seeds. They're depressingly honest, telling me that the germination rate is 67%. That translates to 10% in Mark years.

They also tell me that if I had purchase an entire pound of stevia, there would have been 1,512,756 seeds. If I had done that, presumably at least one would germinate!

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Post  AtlantaMarie 8/21/2020, 7:15 am

I had sent seeds to Plantoid some time ago. I don't think he had any luck.... They're a pain!

The success I had came from a plant purchased at the big orange store. And it's actually a bush! So if you can get one going.... I got a gallon of dried whole leaves from the one bush. I use maybe 2 small leaves crushed in tea, etc. So it lasts a long time.
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Post  markqz 8/15/2023, 1:34 pm

Under the right conditions, whatever they are, stevia becomes a bush-like thing. Here I've trimmed a quarter of the branches (which are in the dehydrator) and the plant is leaning heavily into its neighbor's squares.

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Post  Scorpio Rising 8/16/2023, 11:10 am

Did you use the seeds or get a plant?  I too am a sociopath, apparently….or lazy!
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Post  markqz 8/16/2023, 11:27 am

Scorpio Rising wrote:Did you use the seeds or get a plant?  I too am a sociopath, apparently….or lazy!
I started it from seeds ... but from which of the mumble, mumble, $25 worth of seeds, I'm not sure. I think Sanderson's advice is good, if you can find a local store selling stevia starts.

OG said he managed to get several stevia plants going, I wonder how that turned out?

Did you know that Stevia is not "Generally Regarded as Safe" by the FDA? Probably because there's no Stevia Growers Association that can spend the thousands of dollars to get it certified. Meanwhile, they did approve sucralose, now known to cause DNA damage.

Here's dried stevia made just from the stems I trimmed.

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Post  OhioGardener 8/16/2023, 1:21 pm

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Scorpio Rising wrote:Did you use the seeds or get a plant?  I too am a sociopath, apparently….or lazy!
I started it from seeds ... but from which of the mumble, mumble, $25 worth of seeds, I'm not sure. I think Sanderson's advice is good, if you can find a local store selling stevia starts.

OG said he managed to get several stevia plants going, I wonder how that turned out?

I had pretty good success with them. Of the 12 seeds that germinated, 10 made it to adulthood.  I gave 8 of them to friends and neighbors that wanted to experiment with them, and planted the other two in a raised bed. They grew, but not as big as I had expected. I did harvest a lot of the leaves, though.  I transplanted the two of them into containers and brought them into the house for the winter, but they withered and died. I have not started any more, but I checked with some of the people I gave plants to, and only one of them still had a living plant. Now that I have a greenhouse, I might be tempted to start some more....

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