Re: Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India

rajmahendra 10/3/2016, 9:54 pm

ralitaco wrote:Looks very nice Raj. I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I am concerned about your trellis. The plants can get very heavy when it is full and also when the plants cover the trellis their leaves may make it susceptible to the wind.
1. How is it secured to the box?
2. Do you have anything in place to keep it from falling over (either forwards onto the other plants or backwards onto the roof)?

good luck

Hi,

I am also not an expert yet Razz

. I just buried both pole in the soil! Yes i need to figure out how to do it "Trial and Error" Smile

If it some how bed i may put some support..... i have to see how it moves forward with wind and plant weight !

**Scorpio Rising** 10/3/2016, 10:08 pm

Raj, I am so glad you checked back in with us here on the forum! Looking good! Tell us if you have actually eaten anything yet? I can't wait to hear when you do...

SFG is a super cool way to grow food. I really enjoy it, but also rely upon it. cheers

Keep us posted?

rajmahendra 10/3/2016, 10:30 pm

Scorpio Rising wrote:Raj, I am so glad you checked back in with us here on the forum! Looking good! Tell us if you have actually eaten anything yet? I can't wait to hear when you do...

SFG is a super cool way to grow food. I really enjoy it, but also rely upon it.

Keep us posted?

Hiii

Yes i did some good harvest from this box Smile

Spneach, Tomato, Okra .....
Yesss I like SFG so much i still have a project of full terrace SFG garden soon! (dream project) Smile

ralitaco 10/3/2016, 11:01 pm

Here's a picture that is in the ANSFG book: 3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Roofto10

You would have to secure it with a cable going to the front AND to the back.

If you used something sturdier, like a 2x4 or a metal pipe, you could just go to the box. 3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Secure10

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Secure10

(this obviously isn't a garden but it was the only picture I could find that had the wood running at the angle to secure the vertical to the horizontal)

of course you could build another trellis on the opposite side and connect the tops. You wouldn't have to put the string on it. 3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Big_bo10

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Big_bo10

Sanderson has attached what she calls "cup holders" in the corners. They are larger pieces of PVC that she slides her trellis' into.
Here is a link where she has posted photos:
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t19807p25-new-table-tops#253720

I know these are not the best pictures but I hope they make sense. I would hate to see the trellis fall over.

rajmahendra 10/4/2016, 2:08 am

ralitaco wrote:Here's a picture that is in the ANSFG book:
You would have to secure it with a cable going to the front AND to the back.

If you used something sturdier, like a 2x4 or a metal pipe, you could just go to the box.
(this obviously isn't a garden but it was the only picture I could find that had the wood running at the angle to secure the vertical to the horizontal)

of course you could build another trellis on the opposite side and connect the tops. You wouldn't have to put the string on it.

Sanderson has attached what she calls "cup holders" in the corners. They are larger pieces of PVC that she slides her trellis' into.
Here is a link where she has posted photos:
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t19807p25-new-table-tops#253720

I know these are not the best pictures but I hope they make sense. I would hate to see the trellis fall over.

Woow tku ... yes i browsed some pics on net but the 3rd one is nice Smile

I am not sure the top 3 connector available! i know T connector but this need the 2 connection bend ! have to check. I vote for 3rd pic Smile

**sanderson** 10/4/2016, 2:30 am

I used option #3 on 2 of my beds this year. The 3-way fittings have to be specially ordered. Tomorrow I will take a photo of using plumbers tape and screws to hold the poles to the outside of the box. To make it like option #3, 2 poles placed across the tops of 2 parallel trellises and strapped tightly would create a square or rectangle.

rajmahendra 10/4/2016, 3:01 am

sanderson wrote:I used option #3 on 2 of my beds this year. The 3-way fittings have to be specially ordered. Tomorrow I will take a photo of using plumbers tape and screws to hold the poles to the outside of the box. To make it like option #3, 2 poles placed across the tops of 2 parallel trellises and strapped tightly would create a square or rectangle.

I hope i can still do using elbow and T tube but still it little space consuming but still it will work. I like to but nylon thread in both side. Is it good to have on top also.... i know it hides plant from Sun!

**sanderson** 10/4/2016, 11:06 pm

Here are 2 ways I have attached trellises to the outside of the boxes. 2-wing electrical meal tubing fasteners: 3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Frames11

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Frames11

Fasteners made from plumber's tape. 3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Frames10

ralitaco 10/4/2016, 11:22 pm

Sanderson what do you use the pvc pipes for in the interior corners?
3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Table_20

**sanderson** 10/4/2016, 11:32 pm

The 1" PVC tubes are the "cup holder", my current method of securing frames (PVC). I started off in 2013 using the EMT on the outside of the first boxes.

ralitaco 10/5/2016, 12:11 am

rajmahendra wrote:I hope i can still do using elbow and T tube but still it little space consuming but still it will work. I like to but nylon thread in both side. Is it good to have on top also.... i know it hides plant from Sun!

Raj, perhaps you can use the T connectors on the vertical posts and the elbow connectors to create a top cross.
Here is a very rough drawing:
3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Raj10

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Raj10

If you duplicate what you have and install it on the opposite side, you can use the T connector and run a pipe between the 2 sides.

I will caution you that several folks have had issues with the PVC not being strong enough to support the weight of the vegetables and most folks here use electrical conduit. Is the available where you are?

rajmahendra 10/5/2016, 2:12 am

Woow So much of idea... Tku Smile

Ya the same T and elbow link is what the last plan i have Smile

Assume if i have that with top also having nylon thread, will other plan get sunlight ? the height of the trallace is 5 feet tall!

Robbomb116 10/5/2016, 11:06 am

rajmahendra wrote:Woow So much of idea... Tku
Ya the same T and elbow link is what the last plan i have

Assume if i have that with top also having nylon thread, will other plan get sunlight ? the height of the trallace is 5 feet tall!

I wouldn't put nylon strong across the top for the purpose of your climbing plants growing across the top, as it would shade some of your lower plants. Unless you plan on growing shade tolerant plants below it. Some plants might actually benefit from the shade since I'm sure the sun gets pretty intense there.

One idea I had is if you put multiple T connectors to provide more stability, if you put one a little lower, you could put a netting of some kind across it in order to provide some support for tall plants like eggplant and peppers.

rajmahendra 10/17/2016, 4:32 am

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Whatsa12

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Whatsa10

3 - Tryst with my first DIY SFG in India - Page 2 Whatsa11

I have connected both sides now! one side is cucumber is growing good.. another side have bitter gourd.

**sanderson** 10/17/2016, 9:01 am

Very nice! What is growing in the 2 white containers?

**AtlantaMarie** 10/17/2016, 9:19 am

Everything looks GREAT, Raj!! What are the neighbors saying?

**trolleydriver** 10/17/2016, 10:18 am

Fantastic Raj. You are doing really well with your SFG. Very Happy

rajmahendra 10/17/2016, 12:46 pm

Thank you, tku tku Smile

The white container
1. Potato & Radish
2. Insulin Plant & Potato

its also having seeds of rosemary and thyme but its not growing Sad

**Kelejan** 10/17/2016, 1:13 pm

Before you know it you are going to have a sitting area there where you can relax and watch your garden grow as you cannot look out of a window as I can here on ground level.

It does not all have to be work you know. Very Happy

**AtlantaMarie** 10/18/2016, 7:27 am

rajmahendra wrote:Thank you, tku tku

The white container
1. Potato & Radish
2. Insulin Plant & Potato

its also having seeds of rosemary and thyme but its not growing

What is insulin plant, Raj?

And rosemary can be difficult. Give it time...

rajmahendra 10/18/2016, 7:50 am

AtlantaMarie wrote:
rajmahendra wrote:Thank you, tku tku

The white container
1. Potato & Radish
2. Insulin Plant & Potato

its also having seeds of rosemary and thyme but its not growing

What is insulin plant, Raj?

And rosemary can be difficult. Give it time...

Fiery Costus or Spiral Flag ( Chamaecostus cuspidatus ) its called Insulin plant in India as its used in Ayurveda

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