Most seeds are in.

Yesterday I planted outside. I put in kale, radishes, parsley root (?), bok choi, four kinds of lettuce, spinach, leeks, chard, carrots and the Chinese transplanted lettuce I was given. Inside were the tomatoes, tomatillo's, peppers and eggplant.  This afternoon  before our monthly food co-op meeting we are getting a guest speaker for a  two hour presentation titled " Bio-intensive soils- growing more with less water in less space". I'm going to the presentation but shoot, I could just say MM and SFG and  be done with it. Geez, two hours to say something that takes 30 seconds.

Good job on getting so much planted yesterday!

LOL, 30 seconds!

Planted the rest of my indoor starts yesterday morning, then went to the "Bio Intensive Soils" presentation at our co-op meeting. What a waste of  energy. She spoke about these huge yields, companion planting, close spacing and everything else that SFG do. The only difference is that they dig a 5 ft. by 20 ft. bed down TWO ft. and then put in leaves or straw or manure and fluff the soil. Then to refluff the soil they use a tool that is about 3 ft. wide that you stand on that has spikes about two ft. long and drive that in the soil like an aerator. Wow, I would die of exhaustion. I'll stick with SFG.

   SFG IS amazing, isn't it?

SFG is wonderful!

The presenter talked about 20 foot x five foot wide beds. Who on earth has arms that are long enough to reach the middle?  Did she also talk about not walking on the beds?

I have a spiker tool that pokes holes in the earth but the spikes are only about six inches and I cannot get them in on much of my lawn as I usually have rocks there. I was so happy when I started my first SFG beds when I read on the Internet the night before that I did not have to dig.

A neighbour of mine who started a veggie garden last year on his front lawn, has dug up his bed and harvested a load of stones and small rocks. Now there are large clods of earth there, no doubt waiting for the cold and frost to make them friable.  

It will be interesting to see and compare our results come harvest time. I am not confident enough to challenge him as he has been a row gardener forever and does get good results. I am hoping to get as good as gets but without all the hard work.

johnp wrote:Planted the rest of my indoor starts yesterday morning, then went to the "Bio Intensive Soils" presentation at our co-op meeting. What a waste of  energy. She spoke about these huge yields, companion planting, close spacing and everything else that SFG do. The only difference is that they dig a 5 ft. by 20 ft. bed down TWO ft. and then put in leaves or straw or manure and fluff the soil. Then to refluff the soil they use a tool that is about 3 ft. wide that you stand on that has spikes about two ft. long and drive that in the soil like an aerator. Wow, I would die of exhaustion. I'll stick with SFG.

Sheesh! Who has the time, energy, or tools for that?! AND, being less than 5 ft tall, how would I ever plant, much less harvest, the entire center strip of that monster? I have issues with my 4'x6' bed middles! SFG ALL THE WAY!!! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH MEL!!!

The lady that gave the talk was over 6 ft. tall and her husband is a blacksmith. They made the presentation on their method based on some author that I didn't write down or remember. They gave the example that in one 100 ft. bed the author grew 750 lbs. of potatoes based on his method but the best the speaker was able to do was 300 plus pounds. I suppose that's all good but it is still to much work for me. She also sold seeds based on high altitude and dry conditions. She said all the packets were high seed count so we could all trade and give to others. Well, like the dummy I am, I bought three packets at $3.00 each. After I got home I got curious and opened one. It had 8 seeds in it so I opened the other two. One had a dozen and the other nine. What a total rip off and to think I also paid to attend the talk (it was a fund raiser for the co-op) I really got taken.

Can you post a complaint w/ whomever put this on?  Or was it this couple?

We are new members, well not new but just starting to go to the meetings. I will see two of the members at pickleball today and ask them. There were about 30 of us at the talk and the lady said that the same presentation on  Sat. (in Denver) had over 300 people. Wonder how all those others felt or if they even would know what to expect from a seed packet.