Re: Heirloom tomatoes vs. other varieties

**Turan** 6/4/2012, 12:17 pm

Squat_Johnson wrote:These are so different, I thought I would show a picture. This is a new variety, "Indigo Rose". It was developed at Oregon State University. Looks like they are going to be the first to ripen.

Wow. that looks like those edible nightshades! I wonder how sweet they will be. interesting indeed!

Goosegirl 6/4/2012, 1:52 pm

Turan wrote:
Squat_Johnson wrote:These are so different, I thought I would show a picture. This is a new variety, "Indigo Rose". It was developed at Oregon State University. Looks like they are going to be the first to ripen.

Wow. that looks like those edible nightshades! I wonder how sweet they will be. interesting indeed!

Well, tomatoes ARE an edible nightshade crop, so it stands to reason they would look similar! Love the dark color - May just need to try some of these just to have black sauce (other than when I burn it cyclops

)

GG

FamilyGardening 6/4/2012, 5:11 pm

Squat_Johnson wrote:These are so different, I thought I would show a picture. This is a new variety, "Indigo Rose". It was developed at Oregon State University. Looks like they are going to be the first to ripen.

wowzers!!!.....those are so cool looking!!....keep us posted on how they taste.....so very neat.....would love to grow those next year!!

hugs

rose

**llama momma** 6/4/2012, 5:49 pm

I wonder what color the insides will be????

**camprn** 6/4/2012, 7:33 pm

Squat_Johnson wrote:These are so different, I thought I would show a picture. This is a new variety, "Indigo Rose". It was developed at Oregon State University. Looks like they are going to be the first to ripen.

OOOOOOOooo-la-la, Are they OP? wanna trade some seeds> Wink

quiltbea 6/4/2012, 8:54 pm

@Squat......Let us know if that Indigo Rose tastes good. I've never seen one so dark. Are you saving seeds?

Carol Canning 6/4/2012, 10:42 pm

I am excited to see what Indigo Rose will do. It is supposed to be very high in anti oxidants. I bought a plant from my neighbor vendor at the Scappoose Farmers Market (Oregon) I sell Heirloom Tomato starts and already have 67 varieties, but just couldn't help buying one more. Last year I had to have the Pantano Romanesco. If you all are interested in my test garden from last year check out my website - RiverviewHeirlooms.com, (this is not a solicitation, I just want to gather all the information about Heirloom Tomatoes I can). I am a little crazy about Heirloom Tomatoes. Thanks, Carol

Goosegirl 6/4/2012, 11:16 pm

llama momma wrote:I wonder what color the insides will be????

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Carol Canning 6/4/2012, 11:49 pm

quiltbea wrote:@Squat......Let us know if that Indigo Rose tastes good. I've never seen one so dark. Are you saving seeds?

cheyannarach 6/5/2012, 12:56 am

Welcome to the forum CarolCanning!!

Squat_Johnson 6/5/2012, 8:49 am

I am planning to save/trade seeds. I have four varieties that I got from this forum, and this is one of them.

Squat_Johnson wrote:These are so different, I thought I would show a picture. This is a new variety, "Indigo Rose". It was developed at Oregon State University. Looks like they are going to be the first to ripen.

Nonna.PapaVino 6/5/2012, 11:04 am

Thanks, Squat, for showing us your Indigo Rose. Here in St. Helens, they young plants have just now been set out--no blossoms yet. The seed came from Nichols Garden Nursery, and they wrote:

Indigo Rose has beautiful eye-catching hues of deep purple where sunshine hits to red/orange where a leaf or stem shields an area from the sun. The saladette sized fruits are excellent in salads, for snacking, even canning.

A classically bred tomato like Indigo Rose is the result of ten years or more painstaking selection. Dr. Myers (the OSU breeder) steadily walked the fields, tagged and numbered the promising lines, and grew out the seeds from those selected plants the following year. These tomatoes were continuously evaluated for color, flavor, and yields. In future years we expect to see offspring of Indigo Rose with additional traits. The presence of a high anthocyan content offers some disease resistance. . . From fighting cancer to fighting wrinkles, anthocyanins are regarded as one of the chief reasons to eat our deeply colored fruits and vegetables.[/b]

Squat_Johnson 6/5/2012, 12:09 pm

Nonna.PapaVino wrote:Thanks, Squat, for showing us your Indigo Rose.

My pleasure, especially for you, since I think you sent me the seed!

**llama momma** 6/5/2012, 12:28 pm

Goosegirl wrote:
llama momma wrote:I wonder what color the insides will be????

Silly beginner's question I suppose. There's so much to learn!
Embarassed

Goosegirl 6/5/2012, 2:03 pm

llama momma wrote:
Goosegirl wrote:
llama momma wrote:I wonder what color the insides will be????

Silly beginner's question I suppose. There's so much to learn!

Not at all! I was hoping they would be a little darker inside, but the outside is still COOL!

GG

KDeus 6/5/2012, 3:12 pm

Those Indigo Rose look interesting! I've planted all heirlooms, including:

Illini Star
Emerald Evergreen
Huge Lemon Oxheart
Homestead Tomato

I also have Tomatillo Verde planted - last year a HUGE yield and well on it's way this year, too!

Lynda Elaine 6/5/2012, 9:00 pm

This is my first year growing tomatoes from Seed. Of the four varieties I started, the Indigo Rose was the least vigorous (purchased from Territorial Seed and started near the middle of February in a greenhouse).

I got about 1/2 germination from 50 seeds and compared to the other 3 varieties, they were slow growers. However once the days started to lengthen, the plants started to catch up.

I sell at our local farmer's market in Scappoose OR and the Indigo Rose sold out in three Saturdays. Luckily I kept one for myself and it is in the ground and doing well despite the fact Mother Nature doesn't realize it is June.

Once it starts producing I will post some pics.. Smile

Can't wait to taste them.

Nonna.PapaVino 6/5/2012, 9:09 pm

Lynda Elaine, Glad to know someone else is trying Indigo Rose here in Scappoose/St. Helens (Oregon) area. My experience was a bit different from yours: every seed I poked into the starting medium grew! Ended up with 7 plants: 2 went to a granddaughter, the others are in garden and potted up in the greenhouse. After seeing Squat's pictures, I can't wait to see them in real life--and to taste them! On the Nichols Garden Nursery, there is a picture of the tomatoes with some put up in canning jars in the background. I'm a tad disappointed the purple doesn't carry through to the finished canned product. But, hey, are we really ready for purple spaghetti sauce? Heirloom tomatoes vs. other varieties - Page 3 959632

Nonna

**walshevak** 6/5/2012, 11:00 pm

Here's what I've got growing

•costuluto firoentino

•thessalonki

•superboy

•costuluto genovese

•san marzano paste

•eva purple ball

•homestead 24

•arkansas traveler

•yellow pear

•celebrity

•patio

•large red cherry

•sungold F1

•brandywine

•great white beefsteak

•roma

•purple calabash

•mortgage lifter

Mostly heirlooms.

Kay

Carol Canning 6/5/2012, 11:11 pm

Lynda Elaine wrote:This is my first year growing tomatoes from Seed. Of the four varieties I started, the Indigo Rose was the least vigorous (purchased from Territorial Seed and started near the middle of February in a greenhouse).

I got about 1/2 germination from 50 seeds and compared to the other 3 varieties, they were slow growers. However once the days started to lengthen, the plants started to catch up.

I sell at our local farmer's market in Scappoose OR and the Indigo Rose sold out in three Saturdays. Luckily I kept one for myself and it is in the ground and doing well despite the fact Mother Nature doesn't realize it is June.

Once it starts producing I will post some pics.. Can't wait to taste them.

Carol Canning 6/5/2012, 11:11 pm

Lynda Elaine wrote:This is my first year growing tomatoes from Seed. Of the four varieties I started, the Indigo Rose was the least vigorous (purchased from Territorial Seed and started near the middle of February in a greenhouse).

I got about 1/2 germination from 50 seeds and compared to the other 3 varieties, they were slow growers. However once the days started to lengthen, the plants started to catch up.

I sell at our local farmer's market in Scappoose OR and the Indigo Rose sold out in three Saturdays. Luckily I kept one for myself and it is in the ground and doing well despite the fact Mother Nature doesn't realize it is June.

Once it starts producing I will post some pics.. Can't wait to taste them.

Miss Mousie 6/6/2012, 12:36 am

I'm growing:

Black Krim
Constoluto Genovese
Indigo Rose
Purple Russian
Vinson Watts
Fox Cherry

All were grown from seeds (my first time growing from seeds). I have 1 of each plant planted and all are doing well so far. I've grown Black Krim before and they are really tasty. I can't wait to try Indigo Rose. We over watered our tomatoes last year so this year we are trying to not do that.

SwampTroll 7/16/2017, 6:27 pm

This year I decided to have some fun and try one of the darker varieties of tomatoes. I was hoping for Black Krim or Cherokee Purple, but I wasn't able to find either of those.

Instead my local nursery provided me with an Indigo Kumquat. I had never heard of this variety before and decided to give it a try.

Does anyone else have experience with these? How big do they get? I've found pictures of them online and they get orangey yellow on the bottom while mine are staying solid purple. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just have more growing to do?

**sanderson** 7/16/2017, 11:37 pm

Interesting looking tomato. Let us know how it tastes.

BeetlesPerSqFt 7/17/2017, 7:46 am

SwampTroll wrote:This year I decided to have some fun and try one of the darker varieties of tomatoes. I was hoping for Black Krim or Cherokee Purple, but I wasn't able to find either of those.

Instead my local nursery provided me with an Indigo Kumquat. I had never heard of this variety before and decided to give it a try.

Does anyone else have experience with these? How big do they get? I've found pictures of them online and they get orangey yellow on the bottom while mine are staying solid purple. Am I doing something wrong, or do they just have more growing to do?

I haven't grown Indigo Kumquat but I've gotten a lot of practice researching tomato varieties for this year. My research says Indigo Kumquat fruits grow to roughly 1oz, which I'd say is roughly "grape tomato" size - bigger than a cherry tomato, smaller than a (~2" inch diameter) saladette tomato.

The first tomatoes always take forever to ripen hungry

and the unusually colored ones are tricky to tell when they're ready. Based on my experience with Green Zebra and Black Krim I would harvest partly on color (this got easier with practice for each variety) and partly on resistance to being picked. If a very gentle tug and a slight turn (less than 15 degrees?) didn't pop the tomato off, I left it. For Indigo Kumquat, Johnny's Seeds says "Harvest when background color fills in uniformly orange and fruits begin to soften."So it sounds like if they are still solid purple they need more time out in the heat to ripen.

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Heirloom tomatoes vs. other varieties