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Post  AranMC 1/12/2012, 6:27 pm

I love Amazon.ca... I ordered the SFG book on Tuesday Evening, they shipped it yesterday and it arrived today! Along with the book about Companion Planting...
I am so enthralled by the SFG book... I am going to have so much fun this year in my new garden....


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Post  madnicmom 1/12/2012, 6:46 pm

I know what you mean! amazon is my best friend. LOL

I was going to order Carrots love Tomatoes but found it at Half Price books for 3.50 yesterday! Great Book so far.

I'm now going after http://www.amazon.com/New-Seed-Starters-Handbook/dp/0878577521/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I354HCRAOOR2CL&colid=220GQ69JVEJ64
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Post  camprn 1/12/2012, 6:55 pm

If I'm shopping for books and I'm feeling flush I try my local book seller, but if I'm on the broke side I go looking at amazon after looking in half.com .


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Post  AranMC 1/12/2012, 6:56 pm

That book looks interesting, I'll put that on my wish list for next month too...
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Post  madnicmom 1/12/2012, 7:10 pm

I like that site!! 7.50 shipped , can't beat that.
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Post  HillbillyBob 1/13/2012, 9:30 am

All new Squre Foot Gardening is here my order wasn't as fast but fast enough, trouble is putting it down to get any thing done around the house. Carrots love Tomatoes is still AWOL it's shipped but hasn't made it yet,Our new Post Master does Gardening just wondoring if it could have been borrowed???? Shocked (just Kidding) One Big question that jumps off the cover: is you can "Grow more in less Space",but can you grow as much????
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Post  Unmutual 1/14/2012, 6:53 am

Growing more veggies in less spaced is based on you using the traditional row method. SFG does use less of everything over row gardening, hands down. SFG is a form of intensive gardening, and the best thing about it is that you don't have to become a soil expert to use it. My house was built on drained swampland, with 1.5 feet of sand on top of a clay hardpan. I would have had to have made some serious changes to my current "soil" to get anything but grass to grow.

With SFG you don't have to worry about your organic matter content, pH levels, or drainage issues(for the most part, it's still a good idea not to build your boxes where your native soil doesn't drain well). And raised beds warm up quicker in the spring. Water retention of the "soil" (aka Mel's Mix) is superior to most native soils.

As with any gardening, you start with the soil. Do not skimp, do not substitute, do exactly as Mel says to do.

If I were to grow my veggies in traditional rows, I would need about 5 rows, with ~3' spacing between them, requiring me to dig up(and weed/water/fertilize) ~336 square feet as opposed to growing and weeding/watering in 96 square feet. While that doesn't quite add up to the claim, how I chose to make my strawberry bed is what's throwing it off(I made it so that when the strawberries start running, they already have room to grow into and I don't have to worry about moving any of them for about 2 years). Also, I didn't take into account the fact that I have onions, carrots and radishes growing 16 to a square, or some of the plants growing 4 to a square which don't lend themselves to a matted row easily. I really just didn't feel like putting that much thought into math a 6am.
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Post  HillbillyBob 1/17/2012, 6:44 am

Wow what a dissappointment. Sad Sad Just my Opinion Embarassed after reading the New SFG Book wish I had waited until I got the book before building boxes and buying stuff to fill them??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

What a waste,I feel really dumb this Morning,most of the people I've meet on this site have been great to visit and share ideals with but the new book is just another market ideal, Mel even stated on page31 top section . Perfect Potting soil???cherry jocolor New Mel's Mix Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Post  genes 1/17/2012, 10:33 am

Hey Bob, did you see the part where Mel says that old time row gardeners have a much more difficult time comprehending the SFG concept than newcomers do? There's no need to be embarrassed about your opinion; it was expected.

Lucky for you that you've already made an investment commitment. You may as well try it for a season, and see how the system works. For some people, like my partner, a hands on experience makes more sense than text in a book. Run your hands through your properly made MM once in a while; refer to the ANSFG book once in a while; and by the end of the season...hey, miracles happen.
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Post  CindiLou 1/17/2012, 10:51 am

HBB..I had to double check that Mel actually said that. He did!

But the thing is, you start out with perfect mix and continue to keep it that way with the addition of fresh compost. The catch is "perfect". There is no guessing what is in the mix, you made it so you know! I tried the "potting soil" theory kinda on my first box two years ago. I was not happy. The soil still got hard and clumped up. After one season I had to rework it to summer plant and I had to use fertilizer. A BIG disappointment.

So last year I found the ANSFG book. I made a mix the way Mel tells. There is a big difference! The soil is looser, and I didn't have to rework it. I added just a cup or so of compost each time and never had to use additional fertilizer! No seconded guessing, no having to do testing, just plant and go!

You have already bought your supplies. Please try it this year with an open mind and I am betting you will change your opinion just as I did!
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