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Post  Lurach on 4/23/2011, 5:46 pm

I'm new to SFG, but I've read through the forums for info and can't find anything for ridding my garden box of fly maggots. We always have a huge fly problem here in the spring/summer, and they have hit us hard already this year. Unfortunately, they've turned my new SFG box into a maggot breeding ground. They are killing off my young plants by eating the roots! Does anyone have suggestions for how to get rid of maggots in the soil and prevent this from recurring? Thank you!
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Post  Furbalsmom on 4/23/2011, 7:09 pm

Fly infestation...help please =) 654548 Lurach

Glad you joined us but boy am I sorry you are having problems with your SFG Box.

Are you sure these are fly maggots? The sites I found never listed maggots in the soil, mostly they show up in uncomposted, rotting materials.

I really don't have a solution for you as the treatments for maggots I found always included chemicals I would never place in my SFG.

Hopefully someone else will have a solution for you.

Anyway, Welcome
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Post  Lurach on 4/23/2011, 8:25 pm

Furbalsmom - Thank you for the welcome! =) I'm pretty sure they're fly maggots. I've noticed tons of them on and around my SFG, as well as the dreadful sand gnats we're cursed with. I noticed that my newly planted veggies were beginning to look droopy and the leaves were starting to shrivel up. I discovered the maggots quite by accident when I was adding a marigold to my box. They are all in the soil...disgusting!

Like you, I don't want to put chemicals into my SFG. The only non-toxic way I've found is to pour boiling water into the soil to kill them. I was just hoping there was another way. I guess right now the plan is to remove the plants I may be able to save and try the boiling water. I hope this works!

Thanks again for your reply. =)
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Post  camprn on 4/23/2011, 8:32 pm

Welcome !!!!! can you post a photo of them?
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Post  buttaflie143 on 4/23/2011, 8:56 pm

I was just doing some research on pest control. I think you might benefit from looking into Diatomaceous Earth. I would incorporate it into the soil to kill the maggots.
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Post  Lurach on 4/23/2011, 9:08 pm

Camprn - Thanks! =) Here's the best I could do for a photo. ETA: They're about 1/4" long, white and very wiggly.

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It says something about my desire to make this work, that I was out in the dark digging up maggots for a photo op. Bleh!

Buttaflie143 - Thanks for your suggestion. Is diatomaceous earth something that is readily available? I live in the middle of nowhere but do have access to a home improvement store/garden center nearby.
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Post  walshevak on 4/23/2011, 9:32 pm

Does anybody know anything about beneficial nematoads. I found this at gardens alive

http://www.gardensalive.com/search.asp?ss=nematodes

It talks about cabbage maggots that attact cole crops roots.

1/3" long, white, legless, with a blunt rear end


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Post  buttaflie143 on 4/23/2011, 9:34 pm

The orange box store carries it. I saw it online, but I think it was for in-store purchase only. You might want to call around. And you could look into purchasing it online through a company that offers express shipping. I hope this helps.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202072089/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053
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Post  buttaflie143 on 4/23/2011, 9:36 pm

By the way, it doesn't say anything about flies or maggots, but if you look it up online there is some info. available.
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Post  Lurach on 4/23/2011, 9:42 pm

Ah thanks again, buttaflie143. We don't have the orange box store here, but I'm heading to my parents' house tomorrow and they have one. I'll pick some up there. I really appreciate the advice! I'm a novice gardener and SFGer, so I have a lot to learn.
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Post  camprn on 4/23/2011, 9:51 pm

@Lurach wrote:Camprn - Thanks! =) Here's the best I could do for a photo. ETA: They're about 1/4" long, white and very wiggly. It says something about my desire to make this work, that I was out in the dark digging up maggots for a photo op. Bleh!
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Post  sceleste54 on 4/23/2011, 9:54 pm

Sounds like a good job for a Rent-A-Chicken !!
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Post  walshevak on 4/23/2011, 10:03 pm

I also found this


  • Apply a hot pepper treatment to the soil instead of the insecticide, if you prefer a more natural method of killing the maggots. Add 3 hot peppers, 3 cloves of garlic, and a chopped onion to a blender. Pour in 1 tablespoon of liquid dish soap and 3 cups of water. Blend until smooth.


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    Let the blended mixture sit for 24 hours, then pour it through a strainer and into a jar. Pour the mixture directly onto the affected areas of the soil.




  • Read more: How to Kill Maggots in Dirt | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_7640610_kill-maggots-dirt.html#ixzz1KOzUUq5T

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    Post  buttaflie143 on 4/23/2011, 10:07 pm

    @Lurach wrote:Ah thanks again, buttaflie143. We don't have the orange box store here, but I'm heading to my parents' house tomorrow and they have one. I'll pick some up there. I really appreciate the advice! I'm a novice gardener and SFGer, so I have a lot to learn.

    Believe me when I tell you I am exactly where you are! Dizzy recommended some organic pest control items I should keep handy and the DE was among them. I'm just trying to pay it forward. Very Happy
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    Post  walshevak on 4/23/2011, 11:19 pm

    No Not sold in any of the HD stores in the Wilmington area or within 50 miles of Elizabeth City. Closest store listed was in Myrtle Beach. Sad But I'll find it somewhere. Hmmm wonder if Lowes carries it. I'll have to check

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    Post  middlemamma on 4/23/2011, 11:24 pm

    If you are pretty rural you will find DE in a farm store. If they sell cattle panels, baby chicks, feed for cows and horses, tack, etc they will have DE. Farmers put it in with livestock's grain and food to prevent parasites and worms.
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    Post  Lurach on 4/24/2011, 8:06 am

    Walshevak - That hot pepper treatment sounds good. It would take a LOT of it though. The entire 8x2 box is infested. Also, I looked on the Lowe's website and found an insecticide that includes DE, but not actual DE itself.

    Middlemamma - I hadn't thought of that. There's a farm supply store not to far from my parents' house. I'll have a look there.

    Update - I tried the hot water trick last night on a couple of squares. Instant death! Of course, by this morning other maggots had wriggled their way into those squares. So now the plan is to douse the box with boiling water to kill them off, then add DE to the mix for further prevention.

    Thank you all again for your advice and assistance!! =)
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    Post  walshevak on 4/24/2011, 8:22 am

    I guess that means you will lose all of your plants as well. Sad If you bring in transplant to replace, be sure your check the roots so you don't reintroduce the problem. And keep that DE handy

    Good Luck!!!!


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    Post  Lurach on 4/24/2011, 10:07 am

    I've already lost a few plants and all my seeds in that box. When I moved the others, I checked them really closely to make sure all the maggots were off them. Hopefully they'll survive to be replanted. I'm going to pick up some replacements at the nursery just in case. Thanks for the luck! Looks like I'm gonna need it.

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