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Post  Lindacol on 2/27/2011, 10:00 pm

I raise goats and know that oleander (a common landscape shrub here in southern California) is deadly to most livestock. One leaf can kill a goat or any other livestock. So I don't have it on my place, nor do any of my close neighbors. I have open fields to the north for well over a 1000 ft where the winds usually come from that have no oleander, and we couldn't find any in the feed yet years ago I lost a goat to oleander poisoning. Every year we hear of animals dieing because someone trimmed their bushes and gave it to their or their neighbors animals.

So I am paranoid about it. I wonder about bringing in compost made from yardwaste that comes from county/municipal sources. I would not bring it in. But I will use my own yardwaste. And I have plenty of waste hay and manure for the compost pile.

I also would like to hear of others experiences with feeding garden plants and extra produce to livestock. I plan to do this with mine in moderation, as a supplement to their regular hay. I know the goats can have squash, pumpkins, carrots (the whole plant), comfrey, kale and lettuces. What plants should I avoid giving them? I think I have heard tomato and potato.
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Post  camprn on 2/27/2011, 10:12 pm

What animals, besides the goats, are you looking to feed?
As far as a list for the goats, I found this list.
I know that goats like to gnaw on anything and everything but can you keep them out of the compost/garden?
I do not know the toxicity of various plants after decomposition and frankly I'm not sure how to begin looking. But this is an excellent question.
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Post  The Cat's Other Mother on 2/27/2011, 11:00 pm

It isn't as toxic as oleander, but I've been reluctant to compost with trimmings from my back yard due to poison ivy. The stuff is a plague; all the vines are still dormant but I still managed to get a rash between my glove and sleeve while clearing brush back there.
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Post  Lindacol on 2/27/2011, 11:14 pm

Thanks, I've seen that site before but wasn't looking for poisonous plants at that time.

The goats are penned and the garden is fenced but sometimes(rarely) the goats do get out. I don't think they can get into the compost but we do get very strong Santa Ana winds here and everything blows around. I'm wondering if the Mel's mix will blow away.

The goats are very well fed show/dairy goats. They like to taste everything but actually will refuse food if it gets manure on it. They are browsers and love to eat the bark off your trees, eat entire rose bushes and I have even seen them eat cactus.


@camprn wrote:What animals, besides the goats, are you looking to feed?
As far as a list for the goats, I found this list.
I know that goats like to gnaw on anything and everything but can you keep them out of the compost/garden?
I do not know the toxicity of various plants after decomposition and frankly I'm not sure how to begin looking. But this is an excellent question.
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Post  Lindacol on 2/27/2011, 11:38 pm

I am only looking to feed goats.

I did a search for composting poisonous plants and found a lot of conflicting info.

This is from my county ag extension:

http://cesanbernardino.ucdavis.edu/Master_Gardener/Using_Grass_Clippings_and_Yard_Trimmings_.htm

@camprn wrote:What animals, besides the goats, are you looking to feed?
As far as a list for the goats, I found this list.
I know that goats like to gnaw on anything and everything but can you keep them out of the compost/garden?
I do not know the toxicity of various plants after decomposition and frankly I'm not sure how to begin looking. But this is an excellent question.
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Post  Lindacol on 2/27/2011, 11:42 pm

Goats will eat poison ivy and oak and clear your brush:) I have heard that drinking milk from a goat that consumes poison ivy/oak will help reduce your reaction to it.


@The Cat's Other Mother wrote:It isn't as toxic as oleander, but I've been reluctant to compost with trimmings from my back yard due to poison ivy. The stuff is a plague; all the vines are still dormant but I still managed to get a rash between my glove and sleeve while clearing brush back there.
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Post  FarmerValerie on 2/28/2011, 8:16 am

We have a spot in our yard that gets poison ivy quite frequently, the neighbors rarely get to that spot in their yard so it travels. There is also a pasture on 2 sides of our yard that it comes from, so 3 sides of our yard need to be patrolled and sprayed. It usually falls to me to do this, and I'm allergic to it, but I also have a son who is highly allergic to it. I don't care what professionals say it does spread internally, I've seen it do it. My dad carries an eppy pen for bee stings and poison ivy, and he used to get a shot for poison ivy when he was cleaning and clearing his yard. I would love to get more info on drinking goats milk from goats who eat poison ivy, I'll have to look that up, but I would still be leery as my dad cannot eat raw honey or he could die. I'll have to look that up. Oh, and yes you can get poison ivy from smoke from burning poison ivy, my brother and my oldest son have gotten it that way, on the inside of their mouth and nose by being exposed to it, there was none externally and they did no cutting, stacking, lighting or touching the wood, just showed up for the fire.
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Post  LaFee on 2/28/2011, 11:16 am

I reckon that if you're allergic to it, or if it's harmful to your pets, it's easier to either put it in the trash or send it for your municipal recycling program.

You can't touch it and your pets can't eat it if it's not there.
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