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Post  Nick710 5/29/2022, 9:25 am

After weeks of planing and acquiring the mm ingredients, I thought i was getting close to actually planting my raised bed garden. I've assembled the bed, leveled them and removed the sod under them. However I unfortunately found grubs, lots of them. That is more likely my major lawn issue and why my lawn looks horrible. So now i don't know what to do. I feel i need to remediate it before i fill the beds with my wonderful soil. I however don't know what kind of grubs they are, so to use milky spores, or nematodes, or good old chemicals.....which doesn't seem like a good option as i wanted an organic garden, but i would be 16-17 inches below the surface..... What are peoples experiences and suggestions on what i should do? Sad


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Post  OhioGardener 5/29/2022, 9:48 am

Beneficial Nematodes are the best solution if you know what type of grub you are targeting, but since you don't know that it isn't a really good option.  However, there is an equally good solution which gets rid of all the grubs in the lawn or garden.  It is called grubGONE, and is somewhat expensive but very effective both immediately and long term. It is Btg (Bacillus thuringiensis galleriae) which is a natural bacteria that only affects grubs and is harmless to earthworms, and beneficial insects.  I don't use any chemical pesticides, and found this a great alternative to maintain organic gardens.


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Post  Nick710 5/29/2022, 12:01 pm

Thank You for your suggestion! I ordered some grubGone for my lawn and garden. 

I was thinking that i would treat the soil in the bed with a healthy dose of grubGone, then cover with a layer of cardboard, then add the new soil mix to the raised beds. And also put down grubGone around the beds and on my lawn.

Do you feel that is too fast to fill the beds and plant? I honestly wanted to plant tomorrow, but i feel i should not fill the beds until i at least attempt to remediate the issue.
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Post  OhioGardener 5/29/2022, 12:22 pm

Nick710 wrote:Do you feel that is too fast to fill the beds and plant? I honestly wanted to plant tomorrow, but i feel i should not fill the beds until i at least attempt to remediate the issue.

I would wait until the grubGONE or beetleGONE has been applied to make sure the grubs have been neutralized.  As soon as the grubs come in contact with the Btg (Bacillus thuringiensis galleriae) it paralyzes their digestive tract and they will no longer be able to damage plant roots.

Unfortunately, since tomorrow is a holiday, that will delay shipment by one day.  Otherwise, the company usually has very fast shipping.

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Post  jbarberdoyle 6/6/2022, 12:18 pm

As with all biopesticides, care should be taken. 
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Post  OhioGardener 6/6/2022, 2:49 pm

jbarberdoyle wrote:As with all biopesticides, care should be taken. 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31240825/

GrubGONE and BettleGONE (Btg) applied to the soil affects selected grubs, and does not affect caterpillar larva, such as Monarch butterfly larva. If Bt is sprayed on plants it will kill butterfly and moth larva, and it should never be sprayed on Milkweed plants.

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Post  neefer 6/7/2022, 12:52 am

We added diatomaceous earth to our raised beds, and it has made a huge difference.  When we discovered the grubs, they were so numerous that every spadeful had 2 or more. Now I find 1 or 2 when I double dig them (which I do to get the tree roots out).

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Post  Soose 6/11/2022, 11:25 am

neefer wrote:We added diatomaceous earth to our raised beds, and it has made a huge difference.  When we discovered the grubs, they were so numerous that every spadeful had 2 or more. Now I find 1 or 2 when I double dig them (which I do to get the tree roots out).

@Neefer, do you mean you sprinkled it on the surface? Or mixed it in? (Doesn't it lose effectiveness once it gets wet? Which I assume it would if mixed in. )
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Post  OhioGardener 6/11/2022, 2:25 pm

Soose wrote: (Doesn't it lose effectiveness once it gets wet? Which I assume it would if mixed in. )

Yes, it does. That is the biggest disadvantage of diatomaceous earth. Every time it rains or there is a very heavy dew, the diatomaceous earth has to be reapplied.  I use diatomaceous earth to control the Squash Vine Borer, but it requires constant monitoring and reapplying as necessary.

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Post  OhioGardener 10/6/2023, 1:19 pm

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jbarberdoyle wrote:As with all biopesticides, care should be taken. 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31240825/

GrubGONE and BettleGONE (Btg) applied to the soil affects selected grubs, and does not affect caterpillar larva, such as Monarch butterfly larva. If Bt is sprayed on plants it will kill butterfly and moth larva, and it should never be sprayed on Milkweed plants.

Bump an older post.

Grow It Naturally has announced that there has been a price drop in the GrubGone product. This is not a sale, but a price drop. According to their press release, October is an excellent time to apply grub control.

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Post  sanderson 10/6/2023, 1:24 pm

Thank you for posting this notice. A few grubs can be tolerable, but in numbers they can wreak havoc.

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Post  Guinevere 10/12/2023, 11:51 am

Well of all the frustrating things! I just dug up the sod in my lawn to place my two new SFG beds, and there were grubs.  What a great post just when I need it, I  thought.  I'll order GrubGone.  Nope.  They can't deliver to Arkansas! 

Maybe I can find it locally, but seems unlikely.
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Post  OhioGardener 10/12/2023, 6:37 pm

Guinevere wrote:Well of all the frustrating things! I just dug up the sod in my lawn to place my two new SFG beds, and there were grubs.  What a great post just when I need it, I  thought.  I'll order GrubGone.  Nope.  They can't deliver to Arkansas! 

Maybe I can find it locally, but seems unlikely.

Bummer!  Wonder why they can't ship to those states since it isn't even a chemical, but a biological control?  Their site says it is because, "DUE TO STATE REGULATIONS BEYOND OUR CONTROL".

I did a quick google search, and came up with this company that sells the same product with a different label, and I don't see any shipment restrictions. But, it may be restricted when going to checkout.
https://natural-alternative.com/products/grubgone-grub-control?v=29

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Post  Guinevere 10/12/2023, 9:05 pm

OhioGardener wrote:I did a quick google search, and came up with this company that sells the same product with a different label, and I don't see any shipment restrictions. But, it may be restricted when going to checkout.
https://natural-alternative.com/products/grubgone-grub-control?v=29

I also found it on Amazon, but for some outrageous high price, and I don't use Amazon but as a last resort.  I will try your link.  Thanks!
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