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Hi from Roswell, GA
Hi, my name is Misty and I moved to Georgia in 2020 and bought a house last year that happened to have 3 raised planter beds. I have never grown anything in my life, but am determined to learn how to grow vegetables. While perusing a used book store for local gardening books, I came across the original SFG book. After devouring it, I ordered and read the 3rd edition to make sure I knew the latest and greatest. As I try to plan, the issue I keep running into is that the very thing that drew me to learn about gardening is the part I'm struggling to figure out...how to deal with the original beds
There are 3 of them, but they are 7' x 9' and about a foot deep with a path between each. They are pretty substantially integrated into the landscape and one long side of each isn't super accessible as they essentially back up to a fence. I'm trying to figure out how the heck I convert "reachable" portions of the beds to SFG or if that is just impossible.
We saw a few previously planted vegetables and flowers last summer, but they have quite a bit of blown in weeds at this point, as well and I'm not sure what to do with the soil/debris already in there. There is weed stop fabric several inches below the surface, so I'm wondering if I just pull that out along with everything on top of it, lay down new fabric, and build the Mel's mix on on top.
Any advice would be much appreciated
. I'm very happy to be here and can hopefully get started soon!

There are 3 of them, but they are 7' x 9' and about a foot deep with a path between each. They are pretty substantially integrated into the landscape and one long side of each isn't super accessible as they essentially back up to a fence. I'm trying to figure out how the heck I convert "reachable" portions of the beds to SFG or if that is just impossible.
We saw a few previously planted vegetables and flowers last summer, but they have quite a bit of blown in weeds at this point, as well and I'm not sure what to do with the soil/debris already in there. There is weed stop fabric several inches below the surface, so I'm wondering if I just pull that out along with everything on top of it, lay down new fabric, and build the Mel's mix on on top.
Any advice would be much appreciated

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Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
Hello Misty, and Welcome! It seems like you're off to a great start!
Do you have pictures of these beds? What are they made of? Are they filled to the brim? How deep are they? What is the average air speed velocity of a laden swallow?
Ok, you can ignore that last question -- I get carried away.
My first thought would be to split the boxes so they become more SFG-like. But it depends how they're constructed. I'm sure people will be along with some great ideas and suggestions.
Happy Gardening!
Do you have pictures of these beds? What are they made of? Are they filled to the brim? How deep are they? What is the average air speed velocity of a laden swallow?
Ok, you can ignore that last question -- I get carried away.
My first thought would be to split the boxes so they become more SFG-like. But it depends how they're constructed. I'm sure people will be along with some great ideas and suggestions.
Happy Gardening!
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Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
Hi Misty, Welcome to the Forum.
It's good that you have the 3rd Edition in hand.
As Mark mentioned, do you have photos? That will really help. I'm picturing 3 beds with the 9' lengths against the fence. You will have to divide the beds so you can access all of the squares without walking or leaning on the beds. You can do that with two 7' boards in each bed creating a 3' isle in the middle walking towards the fence. Each bed is now 7' x 3' which is a good size for reaching everything. That will give you six (6) beds of 7' x 3', or 126 square feet. For the grids, I recommend two grids per bed so they won't snap in two when you remove them for end of season cleaning and heavy amending with more blended composts.
How thick are the boards, 3/4" or 1 1/2". How much empty space is there to the top of the beds? You only need to a) remove enough dirt to give you 7--8" for 6-7" of Mel's Mix with an inch left over for mulch during the summer or, b) add another layer of boards on top to give the same head space.
A layer of weed fabric over the dirt and Mel's Mix on top will let you start off without any weeds or weed seeds.
It will take a little over five (5) 4 cu. ft. bags of coarse or super coarse vermiculite for the 6 new beds. One 4 cu. ft. bag for every 24 squares. The same volume of different real composts blended together. And 2/3 the volume of plain compressed peat moss which will fluff up. If the cost is too much this year, just do 2 or 4 of the new-sized beds and the rest next spring.
Waiting for your photos!
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As Mark mentioned, do you have photos? That will really help. I'm picturing 3 beds with the 9' lengths against the fence. You will have to divide the beds so you can access all of the squares without walking or leaning on the beds. You can do that with two 7' boards in each bed creating a 3' isle in the middle walking towards the fence. Each bed is now 7' x 3' which is a good size for reaching everything. That will give you six (6) beds of 7' x 3', or 126 square feet. For the grids, I recommend two grids per bed so they won't snap in two when you remove them for end of season cleaning and heavy amending with more blended composts.
How thick are the boards, 3/4" or 1 1/2". How much empty space is there to the top of the beds? You only need to a) remove enough dirt to give you 7--8" for 6-7" of Mel's Mix with an inch left over for mulch during the summer or, b) add another layer of boards on top to give the same head space.
A layer of weed fabric over the dirt and Mel's Mix on top will let you start off without any weeds or weed seeds.
It will take a little over five (5) 4 cu. ft. bags of coarse or super coarse vermiculite for the 6 new beds. One 4 cu. ft. bag for every 24 squares. The same volume of different real composts blended together. And 2/3 the volume of plain compressed peat moss which will fluff up. If the cost is too much this year, just do 2 or 4 of the new-sized beds and the rest next spring.
Waiting for your photos!

https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t21775-update-2017-how-to-post-a-picture-located-on-your-computer
Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
I'm thinking that each one could be split into two SFGs, with size 3x4, though not perfect squares. You would dig down in a bed, removing soil until there was 8 inches or so from top. Dig all the way to the base soil in a 2 foot strip in the middle, put in some appropriately sized boards to hold the soil, and then back-fill the strip to make a pathway. Divide each side (shown on left) to make a 3x4 grid, though they won't be perfect squares.
I might only convert one bed at a time, since it's a bit of work and it's your first time gardening. That's my random thought. Maybe there will be some better ideas.

I might only convert one bed at a time, since it's a bit of work and it's your first time gardening. That's my random thought. Maybe there will be some better ideas.

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Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
The photos really help. Yes, the beds are really integrated into the landscaping, but they are sturdy and will be great foundations. Hopefully the sections of tree trunks can be rolled out of the area so you can access the uphill parts of the beds. Now you have an open field to work!
You are not the first person to inherit oversized beds that have to be walked on to reach every square. I wish I had I'm looking at 3 King size beds with headboards up against the fence/rock path way. You are going to create 6 twin size beds by creating isles using 2" x 8" lumber to frame them. Head boards still against the fence. One twin will be higher than the other twin but each twin will be so much more manageable.
Excavating dirt can be hard work and you have to have somewhere to put it. I'm voting for building up instead of excavating. Plus you want the beds to be above the lawn with weeds that has be mowed. Throwing weed and grass seeds into the beds.
I wish I had my computer with my photos so I could show you how others solved the over-sized beds they inherited.
ADD: Mark, thank you for that edited photo! That's the direction I was trying to explain with 20,000 words. A photo is invaluable.
You are not the first person to inherit oversized beds that have to be walked on to reach every square. I wish I had I'm looking at 3 King size beds with headboards up against the fence/rock path way. You are going to create 6 twin size beds by creating isles using 2" x 8" lumber to frame them. Head boards still against the fence. One twin will be higher than the other twin but each twin will be so much more manageable.

Excavating dirt can be hard work and you have to have somewhere to put it. I'm voting for building up instead of excavating. Plus you want the beds to be above the lawn with weeds that has be mowed. Throwing weed and grass seeds into the beds.

I wish I had my computer with my photos so I could show you how others solved the over-sized beds they inherited.
ADD: Mark, thank you for that edited photo! That's the direction I was trying to explain with 20,000 words. A photo is invaluable.
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Thank you!!
You are both fantastic....really appreciate the feedback! I'm going to get started on the planning. On a positive note, if I do excavate, I also inherited some spots in the yard that could use some filling 

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Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
and yes, I can absolutely move the tree stumps to get more room to work...very excited to get started!
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Re: Hi from Roswell, GA
Hi Misty. I'm a little late to the party, but it looks like you've been well taken care of.
I live over in Buford, so about 45 minutes from you. Glad you've found us!
I live over in Buford, so about 45 minutes from you. Glad you've found us!
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