Happy Frog Soil Conditioner

cherylLun 9/19/2019, 11:31 am

Does anyone have experience with this product? https://foxfarmfertilizer.com/product/happy-frog-soil-conditioner

Putting together a Mel's Mix and was hoping this could be a component.

From their website: "In every bag of Happy Frog Soil Conditioner you’ll find finely-screened aged forest products, earthworm castings, and bat guano, not to mention soil microbes to help increase root efficiency and encourage nutrient uptake. We also add humic acid, which may increase the uptake of important micronutrients."

countrynaturals 9/19/2019, 12:51 pm

cherylLun wrote:Does anyone have experience with this product? https://foxfarmfertilizer.com/product/happy-frog-soil-conditioner

Putting together a Mel's Mix and was hoping this could be a component.

From their website: "In every bag of Happy Frog Soil Conditioner you’ll find finely-screened aged forest products, earthworm castings, and bat guano, not to mention soil microbes to help increase root efficiency and encourage nutrient uptake. We also add humic acid, which may increase the uptake of important micronutrients."

I use their potting soil and fertilizer, but there's only one store in town that carries their products and they never have the soil conditioner, so I can't help. Sorry. Sad

OhioGardener 9/19/2019, 2:49 pm

I wouldn't use it as a component of MM in the raised bed. This soil conditioner is designed to use with "native soil" to loosen it and add organic material to it. With MM consisting of 1/3 compost, 1/3 Vermiculite, and 1/3 Peat or Coir, it does not need a soil conditioner.

cherylLun 9/20/2019, 8:57 am

OhioGardener wrote:I wouldn't use it as a component of MM in the raised bed. This soil conditioner is designed to use with "native soil" to loosen it and add organic material to it. With MM consisting of 1/3 compost, 1/3 Vermiculite, and 1/3 Peat or Coir, it does not need a soil conditioner.

Thanks.

Yes, it would seem that the toughest part (aside from getting actual COARSE vermiculite) is sourcing good compost. Going to start making our own (tumbler bin awaiting assembly!) this weekend. In the meantime, I guess Black Kow and Mushroom Compost??

yolos 9/20/2019, 11:26 am

I like this. Purchase at Lowes. One thing I know is that you can find the most variety of compost in the spring. Better get it now before they get rid of a lot of the gardening stuff and put out the Christmas stuff.

Have you had a chance to read this thread.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t21089-recommended-store-bought-compost-photos-of-composts?highlight=compost

**donnainzone5** 9/20/2019, 7:21 pm

That product does include sand. Also, if the bark fines are well-composted, it should be okay, otherwise, not so much.

I like Cedar Grove, which is available at Home Depot and Whole Paycheck in the spring. Another decent one is Harvest Supreme. I also purchase fish compost (fish + plant materials) at a hydroponics store. You can make your own leaf compost, too. Sometimes one has to visit alternative stores or search online for the composts we need.

OhioGardener 9/20/2019, 8:53 pm

cherylLun wrote:Thanks.

Yes, it would seem that the toughest part (aside from getting actual COARSE vermiculite) is sourcing good compost. Going to start making our own (tumbler bin awaiting assembly!) this weekend. In the meantime, I guess Black Kow and Mushroom Compost??

Call your local city/county recycling center to see if they have compost available to residents. They often have reasonably good bulk compost.

**sanderson** 9/22/2019, 4:39 pm

OhioGardener wrote:I wouldn't use it as a component of MM in the raised bed. This soil conditioner is designed to use with "native soil" to loosen it and add organic material to it. With MM consisting of 1/3 compost, 1/3 Vermiculite, and 1/3 Peat or Coir, it does not need a soil conditioner.

I agree. I learned the hard way.

**sanderson** 9/22/2019, 4:40 pm

yolos wrote:. . . Have you had a chance to read this thread.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t21089-recommended-store-bought-compost-photos-of-composts?highlight=compost

+1

**sanderson** 9/22/2019, 4:44 pm

I like this Kellogg - Gardener & Bloome product. https://www.kellogggarden.com/products/gborganics/gb-organics-purely-compost/

cherylLun 9/23/2019, 8:02 am

OhioGardener wrote:

Call your local city/county recycling center to see if they have compost available to residents. They often have reasonably good bulk compost.

Tried the local route - apparently all they have is mulch.

Orange County (Orlando) though, nearly an hour's drive, offers compost when they have it ... they can't say when they have it, only be there by 8 am to get in line. Not rolling those dice - went with equal parts Black Kow and Mushroom Compost for that 1/3 of the mix.

Let me tell you... mixing that by hand (84 cu ft) was a two day workout, light as it might be!

**sanderson** 9/23/2019, 7:43 pm

Cheryl, I applaud your work ethic at mixing up 84 cubic feet of Mel's Mix.

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