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Post  Marc Iverson on 10/8/2015, 3:30 pm

My second-year kale seems to have given up the ghost now. It was producing only very small leaves after the pods came out, and now is producing none at all. I think it's done, but have heard of some kales living longer and still producing. I think I probably don't want to waste its squares on what has become a low-productivity plant.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/8/2015, 6:19 pm

Then I will give it a square next summer. Had too much Swiss chard.
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Post  sanderson on 10/9/2015, 2:21 am

Marc, are you going to pull the tired kale and plant new ones?

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Post  Marc Iverson on 10/9/2015, 5:10 am

I think so but am not sure. I planted some kale seeds in one-gallon pots, and they came up beautifully but then got hit hard by aphids and imported cabbage worms, and started to look curled and stunted. Weeks later, they're only just starting to look normal. SOME of them. That's a long time to do nothing.

I'm not sure if by transplanting them I'll be smart or foolish. They are hardly growing at all. But I don't know if they're diseased necessarily. I'm ...uncertain and unconvinced that they're either healthy or something that should just be tossed.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/9/2015, 11:55 am

I only use the wintered over greens for spring leaves and summer seeds.  After that they don't do much...maybe a few new leaves in fall but by then I don't need them.

A few of each current years plants are transplanted from the SFG into the perennial gardens mid fall, so it doesn't matter that they don't produce after seed harvest next year. All I'm really looking for are some spring greens to hold me over while waiting on the new spring batch to grow enough to harvest from.

Does that make sense?
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BUT, this years kale and collards are covered in PM now.  This is a first and VERY disappointing as I'd finally grown enough to blanch and freeze some for winter. Sad
I'll transplant a few to the perennial garden after pulling off any affected leaves, but I'm wondering if they, too, will have PM in the spring...?
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/9/2015, 6:03 pm

It would never make it to overwinter here. I will try kale again in Spring.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/11/2015, 9:20 am

SR, you could try a couple just to see. Champion collards and Dwarf Blue Vates & Ripbor kales winter over best for me.

Well, between the acorns and the ragweed I've about had it! It's no fun gardening while getting bombarded and having to blow my nose every couple minutes.
BUT, it's a gorgeous day so I may take my annual decongestant and transplant greens then mow the lawn. Wish me luck.
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Post  quiltbea on 10/11/2015, 11:42 pm

With a frosty nite arriving anytime soon, I thought I'd pick the rest of my Honey Crisp apples from my single dwarf tree.
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These are the ones I gave to my son and his wife.  I kept some for me so I could make more apple crisp.  No more apples left on the tree.
 
Except for some herb plants outdoors, I'm done for the season.  Indoors I still have 2 pots of thyme going strong.  Its so nice to have it fresh for my dishes.

edited to add:  For a small tree. these are big and luscious apples.
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Post  sanderson on 10/12/2015, 11:29 pm

In an off-road tourist/heritage site, we met a couple from upstate NY that have an apple orchard - Lawrence Farms Orchard! Small world.

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Post  Marc Iverson on 10/13/2015, 3:56 am

QB, there are some apple trees nearby I can pick from. Is it best to pick before first frost?
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Post  quiltbea on 10/13/2015, 6:05 pm

Marc......I'm not sure if apples can or cannot take a light frost, but to be sure I always pick all mine before that happens here.  By then they are huge and red and ready.
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Post  Marc Iverson on 10/13/2015, 8:38 pm

K thanks QB. We just have little ones for the most part, growing wild. Small but tasty.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/14/2015, 10:17 am

Such perfect and beautiful apples, QB. Do you have 2 trees?

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Post  quiltbea on 10/14/2015, 12:43 pm

CapeC.......Yes, I have two dwarf apple trees.  One is a Fuji and that one is younger and had fewer apples which were picked earlier than the Honey Crisps.
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/15/2015, 1:32 pm

@quiltbea wrote:CapeC.......Yes, I have two dwarf apple trees.  One is a Fuji and that one is younger and had fewer apples which were picked earlier than the Honey Crisps.
So, does that mean you had only one tree for a while before getting the Fuji?  If so, did you get apples from the Honey Crisp when it was by itself?  I'm asking because I only have one but will purchase another come spring if need be.  There are others in the hood but they are pretty far away, like the distance of a city block.

Cold heading to Ol' Cape Cod.  Probable frost this weekend. Sad
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The ground cherries on the left next to the strawberry bed just keep cranking them out daily! New England, October 2015 - Page 2 02912

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The one and only, and probably unpollinated, tromboncini squash: New England, October 2015 - Page 2 02311

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This springs planted Concord grapes are growing but not producing. New England, October 2015 - Page 2 05410
Does it take a few years?

Miss Lilly is waiting for the asparagus to turn and the Sheffields to bloom: New England, October 2015 - Page 2 05010

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I have to take the potted tree into the garage for winter in order to get harvestable figs and so far that's not happening.  I have some tiny trees planting around the yard here and there but they are staying small...so far.

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That's about it.  What's else is growing on out there in New England???

Oh, I'll be planting garlic around Halloween.  Do any of you use the same bed for garlic over and over,  or do you switch it up?
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Post  trolleydriver on 10/15/2015, 1:50 pm

CC ... great garden and photos.  Looks like you are about where we were one or two weeks back.
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Post  sanderson on 10/15/2015, 1:53 pm

CC, Thank you for the tour of your garden. Very Happy

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Post  yolos on 10/15/2015, 3:12 pm

CC - looks great.  Can't believe you still have tomatoes growing.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/15/2015, 8:43 pm

Beautiful, CC, lots of stuff still in the mix! Does the chard survive frost? Mine is still going.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/15/2015, 8:45 pm

Oh yeah, I have grown Concord grapes, and they take several years to produce. Grew up eating them.
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Post  quiltbea on 10/15/2015, 9:44 pm

CapeC......I planted both a Granny Smith dwarf and a Honeycrisp at the same time and unfortunately lost the Granny Smith to some disease before she could produce more than once.   Happily it did not kill any of the other trees.  The large crabapple tree we've always had seems to work fine as a pollinator for the apple trees.  I got the Fuji 2 years later.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/15/2015, 10:10 pm

http://www.almanac.com/plant/grapes

Good info here. My dad was into grapes!
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Post  CapeCoddess on 10/16/2015, 12:54 pm

Ooohhh...so you have a crabapple, QB.   Yes, I've read that they are fine pollinators.

@Scorpio Rising wrote:Beautiful, CC, lots of stuff still in the mix!  Does the chard survive frost?  Mine is still going.  

I can't remember since I don't eat them raw (they taste like soap to me raw) so I don't pay them a lot of attention except to plant them for my mother.  She cooks em up and I then eat em.  BUT, I do know they come back the following year if I transplant them into the kitchen garden, which is protected from the hi winter winds.  Then I can collect the seeds in summer.  So best guess is that they do survive frost.

Good to know about the grapes, SR. Thanks! Very Happy

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Post  quiltbea on 10/16/2015, 3:57 pm

With high winds today, tho nice and bright and sunny, and a frosty nite tonite and maybe even some snow flurries tomorrow, I thought I'd catch a couple pictures of our fall color.  Its still not at its peak but already the winds are blowing off the leaves.
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Along Sebago Lake's edge.
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And this is along our main 2-lane highway by the lake.
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Post  Scorpio Rising on 10/16/2015, 8:19 pm

Beautiful, quiltbea!
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