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Post  Chopper 5/5/2010, 3:46 pm

Do you think the typical conduit/nylon netting trellis is strong enough for cantaloupes and watermelon?
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Post  Retired Member 1 5/5/2010, 5:35 pm

Certainly yes to the conduit, but I used a cattle panel instead of trellis twine for the Israeli melons and spaghetti squash "just in case". I think the worse that would happen is you'd need to cradle the melon and attach that to the crosspiece of the conduit.
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Post  Judge Kemp 5/5/2010, 5:47 pm

The woven nylon "cord" netting that I've seen for the trellises can probably hold about ten melons on a single string (if you tied them all up in something and tied the string to it). Heck, it may hold 20-30. That stuff is stong. I'd worry more about the structure itself. Nylon is ridiculously strong. It may stretch some, but it won't break on you.
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Post  Chopper 5/5/2010, 5:53 pm

Excellent. Thanks for the input! Now I can obsess and worry about the next thing...
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Post  Judge Kemp 5/5/2010, 6:32 pm

I decided to look into it a bit further, and found that the nylon thread my wife uses in her sewing machine has a tensile strength of almost 10 lbs. Nylon sewing thread for a home-type sewing machine can go up to 25 lbs or so.

A double braided nylon cord at 1/4 inch diameter can hold 1500-2000 lbs. Obviously this isn't what the garden trellis nettings could hold, but if even the lightest weight nylon sewing thread can hold almost 10 lbs I think our trellises should hold pretty well.

I also saw that as far as "cordage" goes, the outside of nylon cordage has a low abrasion risk, as does the cordage on the inside. So, should be a great all-around material that doesn't harm the stems or fruits/veggies.
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Post  SirTravers 5/5/2010, 8:09 pm

I guess I have somewhat of an overkill. Since my neighborhood is new there is an abundance of leftover construction materials. I grabbed several panels of the grating they use under the concrete for driveways.
I ripped a 8 foot 2x6 in half and used roofing nails to hang the grating on the boards after I nailed them to my box. hehe.
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Post  Judge Kemp 5/5/2010, 10:54 pm

@SirTravers wrote:I guess I have somewhat of an overkill. Since my neighborhood is new there is an abundance of leftover construction materials. I grabbed several panels of the grating they use under the concrete for driveways.
I ripped a 8 foot 2x6 in half and used roofing nails to hang the grating on the boards after I nailed them to my box. hehe.

I wish I could get some leftover building materials! With the price of plywood so high these last few months, I actually picked up 2 8 ft 1x12 boards and cut them to four foot lengths. I used those as my box bottom, because I had to put it on a hill, so had to raise one side up 12" off the ground and needed a sturdy bottom!

With a 1/4 gap between the 1x12 boards, I imagine I may have to water more often than usual, but it saved me quite a bit of cash! And on the bright side, I didn't need to drill drainage holes . . . Trellis for Heavier Items Icon_biggrin
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