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Post  southern gardener 4/29/2014, 5:40 pm

I am on GoogleChrome with Windows 8. Rebooted, logged in/out AGAIN, cleared cache, emptied cookies, still ads all over.  Over it for sure. So annoying!!
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Post  boffer 4/29/2014, 5:55 pm

@greatgranny wrote:The forum for the "creatingforum.com" had this post that might explain some of this.

http://help.forumotion.com/t132462-google-ad-s-leaving-the-box#891562

I've been watching that thread, but haven't said anything here because Turan said she was using FF and AJR is using Safari.   I couldn't attribute the problem exclusively to IE.

We all have been frustrated at one time or another, trying to get past the front line person who has no authority, in order to speak to the person who can get things rectified.  It works the same way on forumotion's help forum.  The mods who handle the day to day business need justification to alert the administrator to a potential global problem.  Then the admin needs documentation to present to the technicians in France that there is a problem that can't be fixed at her level.

If several of you with the problem would post screen shots of what you're seeing, along with what browser and version you're using, I will present the info to them.  They won't even listen unless you've cleared your cache and cookies, and have re-booted, so make sure you've done that.  For those of you savvy enough, try a browser other than the one you're having trouble with.

IE has acquired a well deserved bad reputation over the years, but I've heard that it's much better since IE9.  By virtue of still being the most used browser, unfortunately, it is subject to the most frequent abuse by hackers.  If anyone on the forum would like to recommend another browser, and help less savvy members get one downloaded and installed, please start another thread to do so.  And if you're so inclined, remember that some of our members don't really know what a browser is.  All they know is that they use IE to get on the internet.
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Post  AtlantaMarie 4/29/2014, 6:24 pm

Thanks, Boffer.  How do we make a screen shot so we can show it to you?
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Post  boffer 4/29/2014, 6:36 pm

LOL  I knew that question was coming!

The basic way that everyone should be able to do in Windows:

Open the view you want to capture.

Hit the PrtScrn button.  That copies it.

Open Paint.

Select paste.

Save.

But the absolute easiest way that I've found is to use this free small program
http://app.prntscr.com/

I can get a screenshot ready to upload in less than 5 seconds.  I love it.
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Post  boffer 4/29/2014, 7:25 pm

I thought of another thing for those of you having problems.  In the bottom left hand corner of your monitor is what's called a status bar that will pop up and down.  It's where an  application can display various kinds of status information.

Picture of status bar:
In this picture, I put my cursor over   'Home' in the green navigation bar at the top of the page.Anyone else having problems w/ site? - Page 2 Screen36

Sometimes the status bar will show a link, like in my picture.  Sometimes it will show what link your browser is downloading information from when you go to a new link.

When you're on the homepage, does the status bar get 'stuck' on a particular link in the status bar?  It might say 'Transferring data from such and such' or 'Waiting for such and such'.  You can click F5 to reload the page as often as you want in order to watch what the status bar does.

The homepage should load everything in a few seconds, and then the status bar goes away.  If it keeps getting stuck waiting for the same place over and over, that might be something to pass along to the techs.  

It's a long shot, but worth a look.
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Post  greatgranny 4/29/2014, 8:18 pm

Is Adblock exclusive to Firefox?  Just asking.
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Post  yolos 4/29/2014, 8:55 pm

okay this is a work in progress. I may have figured out how to use screenshot program that boffer listed.
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It worked.  I will see if I can get a shot of the ad at the bottom left of the page.
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Post  boffer 4/29/2014, 9:02 pm

@greatgranny wrote:Is Adblock exclusive to Firefox?  Just asking.

No. Go here. It should offer the proper version for whatever browser you're using, including android (whatever that is!)

https://adblockplus.org
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Post  yolos 4/29/2014, 9:07 pm

Okay paint was easier so here is the bottom left of screen I hope.
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Boffer, as I said I am using windows 7, internet explorer 11.  I tried all the things you said to do except the adblock program.
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Post  boffer 4/29/2014, 9:19 pm

Thanks, I'll see if anyone else can post one, and I'll present them all at once.
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Post  yolos 4/29/2014, 9:29 pm

Okay, I downloaded adblock plus and so far it is working.  When I came back on the forum, it asked me if I wanted to block the popups and I said yes, so I don't know if that is going to block something important or not.
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Post  greatgranny 4/29/2014, 11:46 pm

@yolos wrote:Okay, I downloaded adblock plus and so far it is working.  When I came back on the forum, it asked me if I wanted to block the popups and I said yes, so I don't know if that is going to block something important or not.
Am so glad that this helped.  Have used it ever since I was getting annoyed with ads on Facebook.
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Post  greatgranny 4/29/2014, 11:48 pm

@boffer wrote:
@greatgranny wrote:Is Adblock exclusive to Firefox?  Just asking.

No.  Go here.  It should offer the proper version for whatever browser you're using, including android (whatever that is!)

https://adblockplus.org
I think everyone would appreciate this.  It sure has helped me avoid the annoying ads on Facebook.  Glad it is available for those who do not use Firefox.
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Post  Boz 4/30/2014, 11:55 am

I have not had problems with the adds until today. I see no reason for me to have to install software on my computer to fix a problem with this site and its owners. Thus if it continues I will stop posting.

Bad attitude, I have
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Post  llama momma 4/30/2014, 12:15 pm

Hey, That's ok Boz  I don't blame you, this ad $^&% is really annoying.  I've tried using the recommended fixes and still have the junk ads on top and more junk ads down below on the left side.  The forum use to be a refuge from this annoyance.  Disappointing.
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Post  southern gardener 4/30/2014, 12:57 pm

+1 to BOZ and Llamamomma. It's obviously not most everyone's computers all at the same time, doing the same thing!!
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Post  AtlantaMarie 4/30/2014, 1:03 pm

So I guess the next question is:  Has there been some sort of update on the part of the website folks that might have caused this?

I agree w/ Boz.  I shouldn't have to put more stuff on my computer to block the ads.  I've already got software that does that.  This is the only website I'm having problems with.  (Of course, I'm not on Facebook, etc., so can't talk about that...)
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Post  RJARPCGP 4/30/2014, 2:13 pm

I have plenty of ads alright! In fact, some banner ads are misplaced and Firefox keeps reporting pop-ups being blocked.....


What's gonna really make me put my foot down, is if I start getting counterfeit Flash Player ads!

The fake player ads are believed to be crimeware operations done by corrupt jerks that need to GTFO.
I won't give a squeak if they get imprisonment for fraud.....

One of them to watch out for is "Flash Player Pro", which is counterfeit, it likely tricks users into installing malware.
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Post  Yardslave 4/30/2014, 4:40 pm

I use Google Chrome for Win8 and installed Adblockplus and it performs flawlessly. I don't get ads on either my email or on the web.
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Post  RJARPCGP 4/30/2014, 9:41 pm

I just randomly got logged out.....
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Post  greatgranny 4/30/2014, 9:44 pm

@RJARPCGP wrote:I just randomly got logged out.....
So did I.
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Post  Goosegirl 4/30/2014, 10:08 pm

@greatgranny wrote:
@RJARPCGP wrote:I just randomly got logged out.....
So did I.

Me 3!

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Post  sanderson 4/30/2014, 10:24 pm

Oh, maybe that is what happened to me! I opened site and there were ADS!  Shocked 
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Post  catbranch 5/1/2014, 12:17 am

Unless you have an ad block program installed you are going to see the 728 x 90 (pixel size) ad at the top of the page and the 180 x 150 ad under the chat box in the sidebar no matter how often you delete cookies and refresh your page.

Someone, I'm assuming the folks at creatingforum.com, have a slew of javascript inserted in the code for ads to display from various sources (google adsense, criteo, google lead service, etc). All of which are earning whoever put the code there to begin with money anytime someone clicks on the ads. Whether this is something new they are doing on all the forums they host or if they have some sort of pay us for your forum and we will remove the ads type thing going on I don't know. But they aren't going anywhere until that code is removed or commented out with more code.

If you are familiar with code and know how to read or write it, you can see this by right clicking anywhere on the page other than an image and selecting View Page Source. You have to find the correct spot in the code, but it is definitely there because I have it open in another window and am looking at it.

As a side note, if you are using Chrome like I am, you can right click anywhere on the page (except an image) and select View Page Info. Under permissions >> cookies and site data, you will see other. That is 3rd party cookies that are being allowed on the site. If you click on show cookies it will list them and give you the option to block and remove them. However, I just removed the 11 I had listed and already have 4 more new ones after reloading, so it's really a waste of time since the code is written in a way that if one company is blocked, it just pulls up the next one.. and there are MANY.

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Post  boffer 5/1/2014, 2:15 am

@catbranch wrote:Unless you have an ad block program installed you are going to see the 728 x 90 (pixel size) ad at the top of the page and the 180 x 150 ad under the chat box in the sidebar...

Not everybody!

I removed adblock, and as a guest I see
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When I log in, I see
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When I'm logged in without adblock, I have no ads, and there isn't the long list of google stuff in the page source.

Since this forum was created in 2010, forumotion has changed how ads are administered several times.  Each progressive change made it harder for us to eliminate ads.  The last change worked as I described above: logged-in members didn't have to see ads, only guests did.

I think that they have eliminated that option as well for newly created forums, but that forums created in 2009/2010 were grandfathered in and retained the ability to opt out of ads for logged in members.  Nobody seems to know for sure when the exact cut-off date was.

The screenshots that yolos provided are the current standard locations for google ads here.  Is anyone seeing ads other than those two places?

It's not unusual for the software techs to make changes without telling anyone.  They don't even tell the mods on their own help forum!  

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