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Post  MasonGarden 4/18/2014, 1:23 pm

Hello All!  I am in need of about 50 bags of Mel's Mix, but ordering through Home Depot brings with it a $500 shipping charge (no kidding!) on top of the cost of the product.  Apparently the product is not available in the stores here (Cincinnati, OH) and has to be shipped to my home via UPS.  Has anyone been able to find Mel's Mix in stores here in the midwest?  Thanks!
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Post  km87508 4/19/2014, 9:03 pm

What I would do if I were you is bring in a printout of the product page to your local Home Depot store and ask the garden department manager if he can start stocking it. Tell them that it gets rave reviews and that it would be a great seller. Also mention the fact that you'd buy 50 bags of their first shipment. Good luck!
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Post  southern gardener 4/19/2014, 9:09 pm

Make you own!!  Cheaper and probably better!!
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Post  walshevak 4/20/2014, 1:30 am

southern gardener wrote:Make you own!!  Cheaper and probably better!!
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Post  camprn 4/20/2014, 7:24 am

If you make your own you have control of what is in the MM. The pre-mixed Mel's mix, in years past, has been found to be quite light on quality compost and thus poor yields from the garden.

If the premade mix is used I strongly encourage the gardener to add more quality compost before planting.

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Post  km87508 4/20/2014, 9:22 am

camprn wrote:The pre-mixed Mel's mix, in years past, has been found to be quite light on quality compost and thus poor yields from the garden.
Really? Is it not a blend of 5 types of compost? Would Mel endorse the stuff if it were crappy? You've got me worried---I planned on using it exclusively, because I calculated the cost and it's less than $1 more a cubic foot than making it myself, which compared to the effort of hauling giant bags of the ingredients and mixing it all is worth it to this weakling. I'm new to SFG, so I really value your input.
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Post  southern gardener 4/20/2014, 10:21 am

camprn wrote:If you make your own you have control of what is in the MM. The pre-mixed Mel's mix, in years past, has been found to be quite light on quality compost and thus poor yields from the garden.

If the premade mix is used I strongly encourage the gardener to add more quality compost before planting.
km87508, you'd think it would be better, but CAMP is correct. Make your own. You can pm me if you have any questions....
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Post  camprn 4/20/2014, 10:54 am

km87508 wrote:
camprn wrote:The pre-mixed Mel's mix, in years past, has been found to be quite light on quality compost and thus poor yields from the garden.
Really? Is it not a blend of 5 types of compost? Would Mel endorse the stuff if it were crappy? You've got me worried---I planned on using it exclusively, because I calculated the cost and it's less than $1 more a cubic foot than making it myself, which compared to the effort of hauling giant bags of the ingredients and mixing it all is worth it to this weakling. I'm new to SFG, so I really value your input.
You can make MM as inexpensively as you need to but the key is finding quality composts that are inexpensive or free. Look for farms that raise various livestock, horses, cows, goats, llamas, bunnies, birds, fish etc. Try your area craigslist and freecycle groups. Check in with Farmer's Market members, etc.

Also, perlite is less expensive than vermiculite and perfectly acceptable to use.

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Post  plantoid 4/20/2014, 11:14 am

km87508 wrote:
camprn wrote:The pre-mixed Mel's mix, in years past, has been found to be quite light on quality compost and thus poor yields from the garden.
Really? Is it not a blend of 5 types of compost? Would Mel endorse the stuff if it were crappy? You've got me worried---I planned on using it exclusively, because I calculated the cost and it's less than $1 more a cubic foot than making it myself, which compared to the effort of hauling giant bags of the ingredients and mixing it all is worth it to this weakling. I'm new to SFG, so I really value your input.



 It seems that quality control of some batches were not quite what was hoped they would be.
It is very difficult to get a set formula always working out with the same values when the values of the input materials change tremendously with the amount of sun, rain and what they have been grown with or in or what animal bird or fish has eaten them .

For instance  Grass in spring usually has far more sugars & nutrients than grass from late summer before the rains arrive .

 That's why as a site we offer that you make your own with as many quick decaying types of matter that you can lay your hands on including the animal & bird dung based stuffs.
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