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Fertilizing Onions
Okay, I top dressed my onions, strawberries and lettuce with compost today. Everything's looking great...
Rahab222- Posts : 95
Join date : 2013-03-28
Location : Houston TX
Re: Talk to me about Onions
Marc Iverson wrote:So have either of you decided to do anything differently with your onions next year?
I watered my onions more this year than I had in previous years. For some reason, previously, I thought I didn't want to water them too much as they were bulbs and would rot. But this year I've been watering them twice a week along with the rest of the SFG. They do seem a bit bigger this year but not softball size.
So my question now is, as with garlic, do we stop watering at some point? The tops of a lot of them have fallen over but some are still upright. And do we treat shallots the same way? All my shallots are laying down.
CC
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
I've read that it's best to stop watering garlic and onions two weeks before harvest.
Re: Talk to me about Onions
CC with the Shallots let them stay in un til they release from the soil easily. If there is any resistance of the roots when pulling gently, let them stay a few more days.
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
Onions come from hot dry sunny climes so do go over watering them or all you'll do is end up with lot's of thick green tops that give you the flower , seeds and very poor bulbs .
Don't make the ground too rich in nutrients either or again it'll be all tops & no bottoms .
My experience for getting on for 50 yrs of various sorts of gardening.:-
Most tops fall over on their own , with these I gently ease the plant up an inch or so with a small hand fork taking sure that I don't pierce the onion bulb
This helps the onion take on a quick spurt of growth before going into the closing down ripening stage without going through the wasteful flowering stage .
By the time it comes to the clearing of the square it's a rare occurrence for me to have had to bend any of the tops over to cause the crop to ripen .
About 10 days after the easing up exercise , most of the tops will have gone the light orangy brown colour. This is when I pull the onion , either for use in the kitchen there & then or if there are a lot of them to place them on a chicken wire frame so that the sun and air can get around the bulb to fully ripen it and dry the outer layers a little to help with the long term storage & to turn any green in the stalks into the dried straw colour which in turn sees the stalk become much thinner , softer and dried grassy so it's easy to plait .
If I have a dozen or so onions at the same time in this finished state with nicely withered tops I plait them up into strings and hang them up under the office verandah taking them inside it .just before the first frost
Last November before the first frost we planned for an onion a day through out the next year & so got cracking doing it in two stages.
Thus we planted 100 big Sturton Giant onion sets @ 9 per square foot as these often make 3 " plus bulbs, & 50 purple onions .. Some of the purple ones have bolted but pinching out the flower head seems to have returned them to bulb growth These may or may not store well ) .
Then in late Feb this year we planted the rest of the crop as main crop onions .....another 150 Giant Sturton onions again @ 9 per sq foot . These should be harvest-able on early August
I have used scissors to snip off weeds rather than pull the weeds out as the disturbed soil around the onion roots would attract the dreaded onion fly .
I very carefully side dressed all the onions about 10 days ago with a garden shop available compound mix of " dried blood meal, dried fish meal & dried bone meal " ( DFB&BM ) taking great care not to get any inside the folds /crook of the onion leaves as it rots them very quickly if it gets wet .
Don't make the ground too rich in nutrients either or again it'll be all tops & no bottoms .
My experience for getting on for 50 yrs of various sorts of gardening.:-
Most tops fall over on their own , with these I gently ease the plant up an inch or so with a small hand fork taking sure that I don't pierce the onion bulb
This helps the onion take on a quick spurt of growth before going into the closing down ripening stage without going through the wasteful flowering stage .
By the time it comes to the clearing of the square it's a rare occurrence for me to have had to bend any of the tops over to cause the crop to ripen .
About 10 days after the easing up exercise , most of the tops will have gone the light orangy brown colour. This is when I pull the onion , either for use in the kitchen there & then or if there are a lot of them to place them on a chicken wire frame so that the sun and air can get around the bulb to fully ripen it and dry the outer layers a little to help with the long term storage & to turn any green in the stalks into the dried straw colour which in turn sees the stalk become much thinner , softer and dried grassy so it's easy to plait .
If I have a dozen or so onions at the same time in this finished state with nicely withered tops I plait them up into strings and hang them up under the office verandah taking them inside it .just before the first frost
Last November before the first frost we planned for an onion a day through out the next year & so got cracking doing it in two stages.
Thus we planted 100 big Sturton Giant onion sets @ 9 per square foot as these often make 3 " plus bulbs, & 50 purple onions .. Some of the purple ones have bolted but pinching out the flower head seems to have returned them to bulb growth These may or may not store well ) .
Then in late Feb this year we planted the rest of the crop as main crop onions .....another 150 Giant Sturton onions again @ 9 per sq foot . These should be harvest-able on early August
I have used scissors to snip off weeds rather than pull the weeds out as the disturbed soil around the onion roots would attract the dreaded onion fly .
I very carefully side dressed all the onions about 10 days ago with a garden shop available compound mix of " dried blood meal, dried fish meal & dried bone meal " ( DFB&BM ) taking great care not to get any inside the folds /crook of the onion leaves as it rots them very quickly if it gets wet .
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
So I can put some in for a Fall crop here in northern Ohio?
Scorpio Rising- Posts : 8854
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
you need to do some research for an adequate answer.Scorpio Rising wrote:So I can put some in for a Fall crop here in northern Ohio?
eg: first frost date, day long or short onions, etc.check out the rookie topics and the search feature.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
Thanks, camp! I am figuring it out! It is fun, I Just bought some lettuce!camprn wrote:you need to do some research for an adequate answer.Scorpio Rising wrote:So I can put some in for a Fall crop here in northern Ohio?
eg: first frost date, day long or short onions, etc.check out the rookie topics and the search feature.
Scorpio Rising- Posts : 8854
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Age : 63
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Re: Talk to me about Onions
Now I'm confused! (About onions, that is.)
I recently read that one should NOT give onions haircuts, since that would reduce the size of the bulbs. Which is correct? Either or neither?
I did notice that the ones with scapes that I chopped off were small.
I recently read that one should NOT give onions haircuts, since that would reduce the size of the bulbs. Which is correct? Either or neither?
I did notice that the ones with scapes that I chopped off were small.
Re: Talk to me about Onions
I'm with this guy on growing omions- worked for me: Try This
Yardslave- Posts : 544
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Onion
Interesting video, Yardslave.
Scorpio Rising- Posts : 8854
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Age : 63
Location : Ada, Ohio
Re: Talk to me about Onions
Thanks for the video. I wonder if I plant my sets too deep. They sure don't sit above the Mix like the ones in the video and the following video.
Re: Talk to me about Onions
donnainzone10 wrote:Now I'm confused! (About onions, that is.)
I recently read that one should NOT give onions haircuts, since that would reduce the size of the bulbs. Which is correct? Either or neither?
I did notice that the ones with scapes that I chopped off were small.
Onions are biennial, meaning it takes two growing seasons for then to mature.
When choosing onion sets for planting, choose the smallest ones you can find as these are the least likely to flower (send out scapes) and go to seed, as larger sets will do.
Onions that send up scapes are to be used first as they have completed the life cycle, become soft and are unsuitable for storage.
IN regards to trimming the foliage, just snipping the tips of the foliage will induce new growth, thus increasing the size of the bulb, or so i've been told.
http://www.gardensmart.tv/?p=articles&title=How_To_Grow_Onions
http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/archives/parsons/vegetables/onion.html
https://organicgardeningnewsandinfo.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/tips-for-growing-onions-with-large-bulbs/
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t1306-other-gardening-books
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