Square Foot Gardening Forum
[table bgcolor=#000000 height=275][tr][td]
 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Toplef10 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 1zd3ho10

Hello Guest!
Welcome to the official Square Foot Gardening Forum.
There's lots to learn here by reading as a guest. However, if you become a member (it's free, ad free and spam-free) you'll have access to our large vermiculite databases, our seed exchange spreadsheets, Mel's Mix calculator, and many more members' pictures in the Gallery. Enjoy.

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 I22gcj10 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 14dhcg10

[/td][/tr][/table]
Square Foot Gardening Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search

Latest topics
» N&C Midwest—October 2020
by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 9:03 pm

» Recommended chippers for small-scale composting?
by yolos Yesterday at 5:36 pm

» Garden Veggie Plants Dying
by PAULPOTTINGER Yesterday at 1:25 pm

» 45 MPH Wheelbarrow
by markqz Yesterday at 10:22 am

» Percent of worm castings in soil mix
by yolos 10/29/2020, 6:18 pm

» Adding a "trowel full" of compost? Really?
by GardenLikeMad 10/29/2020, 11:46 am

» I can't find compost for my Mel's mix, and my compost pile is not sufficient
by Nancy Rae 10/28/2020, 3:11 pm

» CANADIAN REGION: What are you doing October, November, December 2020
by Kelejan 10/28/2020, 3:12 am

» TD - A Journey Through Prostate Cancer
by Kelejan 10/28/2020, 2:50 am

» Update on Marie's mom
by Kelejan 10/28/2020, 2:39 am

» Garlic in Central Ohio
by Dunkinjean 10/27/2020, 10:44 pm

» What are you eating from your garden today?
by OhioGardener 10/27/2020, 6:47 pm

» turnip/rutabaga trouble
by OhioGardener 10/27/2020, 3:07 pm

» What Have You Picked From Your Garden Today
by Scorpio Rising 10/25/2020, 7:01 pm

» FULL GARDEN TOUR (Both SFG and Non-SFG)
by dstack 10/23/2020, 6:29 pm

» Weed Killer Spray and my garden
by sanderson 10/21/2020, 10:13 pm

» How's the Weather Where You're At?
by RJARPCGP 10/21/2020, 6:44 pm

» New England, October, 2020
by RJARPCGP 10/21/2020, 6:40 pm

» Bokashi
by OhioGardener 10/21/2020, 6:08 pm

» Self Watering containers?
by OldCrow 10/21/2020, 1:38 pm

» Happy Birthday!!
by Scorpio Rising 10/20/2020, 7:50 pm

» Help with bush beans
by LilBittyBean 10/17/2020, 1:41 pm

» Hello!
by AtlantaMarie 10/16/2020, 6:42 am

» my worms are gonna get hungry
by OhioGardener 10/15/2020, 12:49 pm

» Mark's first SFG
by markqz 10/15/2020, 12:11 pm

» 2020 SFG in Brooks, GA
by yolos 10/13/2020, 11:32 pm

» Fern leaf tomato?
by plantoid 10/13/2020, 4:28 pm

» Prior planning prevents poor plantings performance
by sanderson 10/12/2020, 2:08 am

» Tomato Pie
by sanderson 10/12/2020, 2:03 am

» Seed Exchange: Looking for Greek Sweet Red Squash
by sanderson 10/12/2020, 1:47 am

Google

Search SFG Forum

The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Page 8 of 15 Previous  1 ... 5 ... 7, 8, 9 ... 11 ... 15  Next

Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/10/2015, 1:59 pm

Has, how does the auto-vent system work?  Sounds really good to me!  That's one of the things stopping me from pushing a greenhouse w/ DH...

Thanks.  m
AtlantaMarie
AtlantaMarie

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 5404
Join date : 2014-03-18
Age : 57
Location : Buford, GA - Zones 7B/8A

http://www.defensivespecialties.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  sanderson on 1/10/2015, 3:09 pm

Has,  Wow!  Shocked  You are very creative and industrious.
sanderson
sanderson

Forum Administrator

Female Posts : 19186
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 71
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 1/10/2015, 4:23 pm

That's awesome.  What a beautiful job you've done.  

I will probably install something similar next winter when we redo our greenhouse cover with 6 mil (since our cover only lasted one year).  I often forget to go outside in the morning and we can get over 100 degrees so quickly it's crazy.
audrey.jeanne.roberts
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1918
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/10/2015, 8:11 pm

And a great video!  I'm not sure how I missed that in Dec...  Very good explanation of what you're doing.

Thank you!
AtlantaMarie
AtlantaMarie

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 5404
Join date : 2014-03-18
Age : 57
Location : Buford, GA - Zones 7B/8A

http://www.defensivespecialties.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 1/10/2015, 8:58 pm

@AtlantaMarie wrote:Has, how does the auto-vent system work?  Sounds really good to me!  That's one of the things stopping me from pushing a greenhouse w/ DH...

Thanks.  m
it actually a foundation or crawl space vent for pier and beams homes. It allows air circulation beneath the home . keeping the ground dry and preventing mold.  I used velcro to fasten on part to the metal housing and velco of the green house plastic . this way it would attached to each other. I also added gorilla glue to the glue side of the velcro that's attached to the greenhouse plastic for additional sticking power. Lowes and home depot have these , but the comments were not good. so I order from here-
 one or two piece crawl space vent

from there website: The non-powered, Automatic Foundation Vent will open and close automatically using a heat/cold sensitive coil. The louvers open completely at approximately 72°F and completely close at approximately 38°F. Unlike manual vents that can waste energy when no one remembers to open or close them, these vents self-adjust all year long.


if your green house is large, not a small hoop house. you may like something like this vent. A shutter  with a solar opener added to it.


POLY & ALUMINUM SHUTTERS FOR GREENHOUSE AIR FLOW-12" size and



Automatic Louvre Opener Used In Greenhouses
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  AtlantaMarie on 1/11/2015, 8:44 am

Thank you!  That info is very helpful...!
AtlantaMarie
AtlantaMarie

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 5404
Join date : 2014-03-18
Age : 57
Location : Buford, GA - Zones 7B/8A

http://www.defensivespecialties.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 1/13/2015, 7:14 pm

some of the dots are connecting about extending the season in the winter. I found this season, I'm having to water the plants because they can't get water from the rain or feel the wind when the temperature is in the upper 40's and higher. The square foot garden square box that I left behind for the continuation of the experiment is doing fine at this time. 

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0610


 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0611

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0612

I can take the top off and allow the plants to  get all sun, rain and see my smiling face, buttttttttt the round low top hoop house is not in that position. just when I thought I had it all figure out.
I having another idea that I might be able to take the hoop house off without damaging the green house, thus letting the wind , rain come in, intermittently when the weather is good. It's not anchor down, but held down by the mulch. So I'm thinking of moving the mulch from the perimeter so I can lift it off (see picture below-how I did it before I covered it with plastic. the next picture show GH being held down with mulch).
 I don't know how it will do if it's windy, which I probably won't remove it. The metal may be heavy enough to keep it from blowing away.

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0730

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0731

I got the idea of lifting it from here. original hoopbenders
 
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  steve638 on 1/14/2015, 10:56 pm

Great post, I did some experimenting this winter but nothing to your scale. Will post some pics of how mine went.  And how I'll improve upon it next season.
steve638
steve638

Male Posts : 38
Join date : 2014-11-27
Location : Newburgh, IN

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 1/14/2015, 11:20 pm

@steve638 wrote:Great post, I did some experimenting this winter but nothing to your scale. Will post some pics of how mine went.  And how I'll improve upon it next season.
Look forward to those pictures! Smile
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/1/2015, 6:59 pm

quick fixed with 5 ways couplers, row covers and snap claps for newly transplants of broccoli, cabbage, brussel sprouts, and lettuce. temp down to 27 degrees next two nights.

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0831


 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0832


 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0833


 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0834


 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0835



 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Img_0836
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  sanderson on 2/2/2015, 2:36 am

27*F !! What brought on the freeze? I'll have to catch up on national (and international) news now that I'm home.
sanderson
sanderson

Forum Administrator

Female Posts : 19186
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 71
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 2/2/2015, 11:44 am

I need to create some hoop house structures for my new 4 x 8 beds.  How many hoops would you put on them and how far apart?  I'm going to be using them more for using tulle to keep the birds and insects out than for greenhouses.  Although in a normal, colder year I'll put plastic on them to warm things up a little earlier.
audrey.jeanne.roberts
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1918
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  Turan on 2/2/2015, 11:55 am

I would put 4 minumin but 5 would give a couple more options and security.  I think the tulle would hang better with more support.  I used 3 on a 4x4, over kill but it kept the sag to a minumin and helped with my wind troubles.

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Belgrade, MT
Click for weather forecast
Turan
Turan

Female Posts : 2603
Join date : 2012-03-29
Location : Gallatin Valley, Montana, Intermountain zone 4

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  yolos on 2/2/2015, 1:54 pm

I use four hoops on a 3' x 8' bed evenly spaced with a support across the top from one end of the bed to the other end.  This keeps it from sagging too much.  This is for Tulle and plastic.
 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Squash11
yolos
yolos

Female Posts : 3968
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 70
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  sanderson on 2/2/2015, 3:21 pm

Nice!
sanderson
sanderson

Forum Administrator

Female Posts : 19186
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 71
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  donnainzone5 on 2/2/2015, 5:00 pm

has55,

I think this animation from Wunderground explains most of the cold temps currently occurring:

http://www.wunderground.com/maps/us/Temperature.html  

By the way, this is similar to the pattern we've seen for most of the winter.  Mr. Groundhog seems to think it will persist for another six weeks.
donnainzone5
donnainzone5

Certified SFG Instructor

Female Posts : 2506
Join date : 2010-03-02
Age : 73
Location : Bend, OR (Zone 5-6)

http://www.amway.com/DonnaKBecker

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/2/2015, 6:52 pm

donnainzone10 wrote:has55,

I think this animation from Wunderground explains most of the cold temps currently occurring:

http://www.wunderground.com/maps/us/Temperature.html  

By the way, this is similar to the pattern we've seen for most of the winter.  Mr. Groundhog seems to think it will persist for another six weeks.
thank you. nice
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/2/2015, 6:53 pm

@yolos wrote:I use four hoops on a 3' x 8' bed evenly spaced with a support across the top from one end of the bed to the other end.  This keeps it from sagging too much.  This is for Tulle and plastic.
 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Squash11
loved the setup
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/3/2015, 1:58 pm

@has55 wrote:
@yolos wrote:I use four hoops on a 3' x 8' bed evenly spaced with a support across the top from one end of the bed to the other end.  This keeps it from sagging too much.  This is for Tulle and plastic.
 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Squash11
loved the setup
yolos, I was reviewing your picture and noticed that you have mulched around your SFG beds and you also have a border that seems to contained the garden area. 

May I asked what are you using the mulched for around your beds?-walkways?

do you have any pictures showing the entire setup and the borders or can you point me to a thread that shows this?

what did you use to create the border?

yesterday, on our drive to Dallas to  the nursery to get some different style plants, like cheddars cheese cauliflower, my wife asked is the mulch going to bring lots of spiders or roaches? these are her personal fears.  I reassured her everything would be ok because I hadn't heard anything negative about it from the SFG community or on the web. 
Have there been anything negative that you or others have experience and hopefully resolved.
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  sanderson on 2/3/2015, 2:18 pm

I have seen two of these around a raised bed near the house foundation. Some organic material has been spilled around it, plus small leaves, creating a hospitable environment. The common local names are Oriental CR or garden CR. Garden because it prefers mulched or rotting wood, wet areas. If you see one inside, it's either an accident or a wet rotting area like a long term leaking pipe under a kitchen or bathroom cabinet, or rotting, wet sub-flooring. They prefer the outdoors. Just don't let your wife see this topic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_cockroach

____________________________

Find more about Weather in Fresno, CA
Click for weather forecast
sanderson
sanderson

Forum Administrator

Female Posts : 19186
Join date : 2013-04-21
Age : 71
Location : Fresno CA Zone 8-9

https://connect.xfinity.com/appsuite/#!!&app=io.ox/mail&

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/3/2015, 2:34 pm

@sanderson wrote:I have seen two of these around a raised bed near the house foundation.  Some organic material has been spilled around it, plus small leaves, creating a hospitable environment.  The common local names are Oriental CR or garden CR.  Garden because it prefers mulched or rotting wood, wet areas.  If you see one inside, it's either an accident or a wet rotting area like a long term leaking pipe under a kitchen or bathroom cabinet, or rotting, wet sub-flooring.  They prefer the outdoors.  Just don't let your wife see this topic!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_cockroach
we get the water bug around our area. at least that what the locals call it. I call it a roach. Since I put DE under the mulched in the flower beds before I had applied the mulched a few years ago, this has not been a problem I also had an exterminator blow DE under my pier and beam house , this process carried it into the walls . This may also had stop them.
But i didn't apply it the base for this project. so I might go to the feed store and apply it on top and let it work it way down. I no good when it wet, but comes back to full power after it dries out.

We also have plenty of tree lizards. I see them of the outside wall in the late spring thru fall.

Thanks Sanderson.
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  yolos on 2/3/2015, 6:06 pm

@has55 wrote:
@has55 wrote:
@yolos wrote:I use four hoops on a 3' x 8' bed evenly spaced with a support across the top from one end of the bed to the other end.  This keeps it from sagging too much.  This is for Tulle and plastic.
 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Squash11
loved the setup
yolos, I was reviewing your picture and noticed that you have mulched around your SFG beds and you also have a border that seems to contained the garden area. 

May I asked what are you using the mulched for around your beds?-walkways?

do you have any pictures showing the entire setup and the borders or can you point me to a thread that shows this?

what did you use to create the border?

yesterday, on our drive to Dallas to  the nursery to get some different style plants, like cheddars cheese cauliflower, my wife asked is the mulch going to bring lots of spiders or roaches? these are her personal fears.  I reassured her everything would be ok because I hadn't heard anything negative about it from the SFG community or on the web. 
Have there been anything negative that you or others have experience and hopefully resolved.
This is a full on shot of my garden as of late fall 2014.

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Panora11
My walkays between the beds are three feet wide.  I originally put down many layers of newspaper and then wheat straw.  But that really only lasted one year and wheat started growing on top of the newspaper.  So the next year I tried newspaper and then mini pine bark nuggets.  That is working fairly well to keep the weeds down.  I still get some weeds, but not too many and usually easy to remove.  Then this fall, the leaves from the big live oak tree next to the garden deposited leaves on top of the pine bark nuggets on part of the garden.  I have had no problems with roaches or any other bugs in the mulch.

Yes, I have a border around much of the garden.  This was originally a old style row garden.  It is also on a very slight incline.  When we built the old row style garden, we put 6" x 6" x 8' lumber around three sides of the garden for various reasons.  When I converted it to SFQ, I moved the 6" x 6" lumber from one side of the garden to make one long 4 foot x 32 foot bed on the far side of the garden.  Then I replaced the lumber on that side with 4" x 4" foot lumber.  So two sides now have the 6" x 6" lumber and one side has the 4" x 4" lumber.  On the fourth side I just used whatever is handy to form that border.  Easy to move the pieces or just roll over them with a wheel barrow.  I like borders to keep the mulch contained and originally to keep the dirt contained when I had the row style garden.
Here is a link to my pictures from my 2014 garden.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t17310-2014-sfg-in-brooks-ga
yolos
yolos

Female Posts : 3968
Join date : 2011-11-20
Age : 70
Location : Brooks, Ga Zone 7B/8A

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 2/3/2015, 8:51 pm

Just BEAUTIFUL!  You've done a great job on the framework, my garden is no where near as neatly put together  Embarassed!
audrey.jeanne.roberts
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1918
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  has55 on 2/4/2015, 2:34 pm

Yolos, those pictures hit a home run or should i say touch down since it the end of the Super Bowl Era. love how you organized everything.
has55
has55

Posts : 2231
Join date : 2012-05-10
Location : Denton, tx

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  audrey.jeanne.roberts on 2/4/2015, 8:06 pm

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 20150204_134917_resized_zps3636c2ae

Thanks to everyone that helped with the information on how to make these.  I managed to finish my tulle hoop houses today and plant one of them.  Our last frost date is March 15th, however last year it was Feb 1 and this winter has been so much warmer than last or usual that my seeds will likely be just fine in them.

I have propped the grid wall panels against the boxes to help "encourage" my cats to stay away.  They will become my trellises when summer comes.  They are left over from when we did trade shows and retail shows.  

If we have a frost headed our way, I'll just whip out some plastic Smile

These 2, 4x8 table top costs ended up:

Boxes were free
Landscape fabric we lined them with was purchased about 10 years ago so I count that free!
$40 in additional Vermiculite and peat (I had a lot left from earlier gardens)
$22.00 - 1.99 yard for 10 yards of 108" tulle at Joanne's (using a 50% off coupon) 
18.00 in pvc
Home made compost

So approx. $40 a box to which I'll add 6 mil greenhouse plastic for the fall.
audrey.jeanne.roberts
audrey.jeanne.roberts

Posts : 1918
Join date : 2012-12-07
Location : Central Calif Mtns.

http://audreyjeanne-roberts.artistwebsites.com

Back to top Go down

 The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic  - Page 8 Empty Re: The Winter Journey and greenhouse plastic

Post  Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 8 of 15 Previous  1 ... 5 ... 7, 8, 9 ... 11 ... 15  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum