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Post  Frenchbean on 6/22/2013, 8:02 am

I think Ive made my first mistakes at this SFG tabletop. The wind is howling around my garden. My wagon cloche is lifting off so I unraveled it; making the hoop house smaller. That bits ok  (I think, I hope)thinking I saw my Courgettes x2 I think Ive planted my box all wrong.
VCant post my pictures there not being accepted. So bare with me folks. Imagine a TT 4x4 ft box

Back of box moving to the right: (Ive lost you all, I can feel it)

sweet potato: french beans`: french beans`: french beans`:
cucumber: Nasturturns/cosmos: Courgette: Tomatoe
Dwarf peas: Pepper: Courgette: Tomato
lettuce leaves tomato: Pepper: Pepper

so the problem is courgettes after the rain growing/sprreading outwards. Can I cage it if so how? Less room next to tomatoes and courgettes. There touching each other. How should I have set out my bed. So I know for next time
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Post  walshevak on 6/22/2013, 2:04 pm

If I was planting what you did it would go like this

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trellis on N side   If the peas are climbers then another trellis on E

cuke   tomato    tomato   tomato

empty  bush beans  bush beans    peas

courgette lettuce  lettuce  bush bean

nasturtium   courgette  empty   bush bean

Then add large pots or 5 gal buckets for peppers

OR  build another 4x4 tabletop and have fun.  The important thing is to put the courgettes on the outside edged of the bed and allow  2 squares per plant.  Then allow the plants to fall over the edges.  

There are 5 squash plants on the outer edges, 4 peppers in the center and some basil and 1 okra scattered about in this bed.

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since this picture was taken on 1 June, the squash has exploded, the okra is growing up taller than the squash, the basil (which was self sowed from last year) has had to be thinned out considerably, and the peppers are starting to grow taller than the squash.  I have had to cut the squash leaves in the center of the box to allow light for the peppers.

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Post  Frenchbean on 6/22/2013, 3:35 pm

I hope this works Kay. Im so fed up with trying to post photos. This is what Im trying to say . Hopefully (Embarassed :scratch:) in the picture you will see my courgettes two of them, in squares next to my tomatoes. There covering a lot of the ground. Can I cage them if so how? Will they grow up  a stake? The variety is Black beauty. The  French beans are Dwarf tendergreen apparently they don't need support.  North is (Oh heck how do I show where north is. study Oh...... my garden is NNW flower facing if that makes any sense  flower
Thanks for hanging on in there with me.

No sorry the link doesn't work so I've removed it. I give up


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Post  RoOsTeR on 6/22/2013, 4:34 pm

@Frenchbean wrote:No sorry the link doesn't work so I've removed it. I give up



Send me a pm detailing your step by step process you use trying to post pictures. 

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Post  walshevak on 6/22/2013, 6:22 pm

Based on the growth pattern of my black beauty plants, I don't see you successfully caging or trellising them  I do have one growing on to a cantilevered trellis, but it is more of an over the side and just resting on the lower part than growing up a trellis. 

Ok, here are some possibilities for this year.   Trim the bottoms of the tomatos  high and trellis them up.  Trim them higher than the expected height of the courgettes.  I'd say about 2 ft.  You can double or triple stem them to increase your production above the 2 ft mark.   That will give your courgettes more expanding space and shade the tomato roots but not the plant.   Pull out the cosmos.  Try transplanting the nasturtium to the lettuce corner and let it trail over the side.  With a little luck this will give you enough space to successfully grow the courgettes and the tomatos.  If you want to take a chance, transplant the peppers to buckets for more space.  This will also allow you to move the peppers inside during the fall and avoid early frosts.  Is this important to the English growing season?

Here is a picture of my cantilevered trellis on my tabletop.
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Post  littlejo on 6/22/2013, 6:43 pm

Here are Frenchbean's photos, maybe it is a translation problem?

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Post  walshevak on 6/22/2013, 7:00 pm

Decided to take a few pictures to update the ones already posted.

The one resting on the cantilevered trellis.  Notice I pulled it over with a piece of cut up pantyhose to encourage it to lean on the trellis.  Cukes climbing in the background.

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same plant with its leaves not held out of the way

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peppers, basil and squash.  this is the 5 squash bed.

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another view.  as you can see the yellow squash are huge and this is after pruning.

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this is what happens when the squash hide from you.  Both of these came off the cantilevered plant.

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Post  walshevak on 6/22/2013, 7:07 pm

@littlejo wrote:Here are Frenchbean's photos, maybe it is a translation problem?

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Oh I like this.  Good job.
Is that a baby courgette I see?  The peppers look small enough to move.  

Anybody else have suggestions for overcrowding?

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Post  Frenchbean on 6/23/2013, 5:47 am

Littlejo your a superstar:clap1:praise Thank you so much for posting my pictures.

Kim thanks:thanky:your pictures have taught me a lot. Thanks everyone for baring with me👏you rock
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