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When to turn compost?
I am confused with regard to how often I should turn my compost pile. Mel says that if you turn your compost every day, you should have finished compost within three weeks, assuming that everything is in small pieces. Does this apply to this time of year, when the temperatures are in the 50's or 60's, or only to the summer? I have also read on this site that you should turn the pile only when the interior temperature is declining, about once a week. Otherwise, you can disturb the decompose cycle. What is correct? I would very much like to have my compost ready within three weeks if that is possible. Most of it has been in the bin undisturbed over the winter, but I added a good amount of green and brown material today.
QuercyGarden- Posts : 36
Join date : 2013-03-30
Location : SW France
Re: When to turn compost?
Turning your compost everyday is not helpful in accelerating the time to finished compost.
Turn your compost, then it will take a day or two to heat up. Then let it's do it's thing until the temperature falls below 100F. Then turn it again.
http://compost.css.cornell.edu/
Turn your compost, then it will take a day or two to heat up. Then let it's do it's thing until the temperature falls below 100F. Then turn it again.
http://compost.css.cornell.edu/
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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Re: When to turn compost?
At that rate, approximately how long will it take for the compost to be ready?
QuercyGarden- Posts : 36
Join date : 2013-03-30
Location : SW France
Re: When to turn compost?
Depends on how big the pile is and what it contains. I have had usable compost in 21 days. Please read all about compost at the link I posted.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
https://squarefoot.forumotion.com/t3574-the-end-of-july-7-weeks-until-frost
There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: When to turn compost?
Look up " The Berkley 18 day hot composting method "
What is in there works well .
If you're fit & able turning the heap after day four and then every three days for five more times will see those quoted materials turned into a good useable compost.
Have a look into the left hand side of the home page .. there are several very useful composting thereads to be found in there .
You can also look in the main index on the home page for further composting threads.
What is in there works well .
If you're fit & able turning the heap after day four and then every three days for five more times will see those quoted materials turned into a good useable compost.
Have a look into the left hand side of the home page .. there are several very useful composting thereads to be found in there .
You can also look in the main index on the home page for further composting threads.
plantoid- Posts : 4096
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Re: When to turn compost?
I have just read several articles about hot composting. Hope that it works for me in time to put in my garden. Otherwise, I really doubt that I will find five suitable ingredients.
QuercyGarden- Posts : 36
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Location : SW France
Re: When to turn compost?
I'm in the same boat........ Think positively my friend! it will work out!!QuercyGarden wrote:I have just read several articles about hot composting. Hope that it works for me in time to put in my garden. Otherwise, I really doubt that I will find five suitable ingredients.
43 years a gardener and going strong with SFG.
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There are certain pursuits which, if not wholly poetic and true, do at least suggest a nobler and finer relation to nature than we know. The keeping of bees, for instance. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Re: When to turn compost?
I will feel more confident about this if in a few days my compost pile is so hot that I can't put my arm in it!
QuercyGarden- Posts : 36
Join date : 2013-03-30
Location : SW France
Re: When to turn compost?
I can't generate enough materials to get a decent compost pile going.
I did some major weeding and sweeping up of leaves and whatnot, fed it all through a chipper/shredder, and included a lot of (unfortunately) tough browns from the palm trees that shed everywhere.
All told, the pile is probably 30 cubic inches, and that was without it compacting. The first week, it hit 100degF, and I really thought it was on its way.
I watered appropriately, turned it when it cooled off a tick, and now it's 80 degrees outside, and the heart of the pile is 60 degrees, and won't move. I continue to turn it and water when it looks like it needs it, but the pile definitely went into slow mode.
The upside is, the stuff in the pile does look like it's oxidizing (green stuff is going black, pale brown dry stuff is going dark dark brown), but it won't actually break DOWN.
Gardening is so much fun in the desert.
I did some major weeding and sweeping up of leaves and whatnot, fed it all through a chipper/shredder, and included a lot of (unfortunately) tough browns from the palm trees that shed everywhere.
All told, the pile is probably 30 cubic inches, and that was without it compacting. The first week, it hit 100degF, and I really thought it was on its way.
I watered appropriately, turned it when it cooled off a tick, and now it's 80 degrees outside, and the heart of the pile is 60 degrees, and won't move. I continue to turn it and water when it looks like it needs it, but the pile definitely went into slow mode.
The upside is, the stuff in the pile does look like it's oxidizing (green stuff is going black, pale brown dry stuff is going dark dark brown), but it won't actually break DOWN.
Gardening is so much fun in the desert.
I think my sunflower plant can take me in a fair fight...it's taller than me, and it keeps giving me dirty looks.
brainchasm- Posts : 479
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Age : 49
Location : Las Vegas, NV
Re: When to turn compost?
It seems to be an awefully small pile, brainchasm.brainchasm wrote:I can't generate enough materials to get a decent compost pile going.
. . .
All told, the pile is probably 30 cubic inches, and that was without it compacting. The first week, it hit 100degF, and I really thought it was on its way.
. . .
That make the pile a little over 3 inches a side. 3"x3"x3"
= 27 cu.in.
Re: When to turn compost?
brainchasm wrote:I can't generate enough materials to get a decent compost pile going.
I did some major weeding and sweeping up of leaves and whatnot, fed it all through a chipper/shredder, and included a lot of (unfortunately) tough browns from the palm trees that shed everywhere.
All told, the pile is probably 30 cubic inches, and that was without it compacting. The first week, it hit 100degF, and I really thought it was on its way.
I watered appropriately, turned it when it cooled off a tick, and now it's 80 degrees outside, and the heart of the pile is 60 degrees, and won't move. I continue to turn it and water when it looks like it needs it, but the pile definitely went into slow mode.
The upside is, the stuff in the pile does look like it's oxidizing (green stuff is going black, pale brown dry stuff is going dark dark brown), but it won't actually break DOWN.
Gardening is so much fun in the desert.
Can you cover the pile with a plastic sheet to get the humidity up in the heap to get it " sweating " rather than let the moisture evaporate .
Once the humidity goes high the bacteria & fungi start to break the material down as it starts to go rotten , the temps in the heap should then start to rise again .
The woodier materials take longer to break down the harder / more fiberous they are .
plantoid- Posts : 4096
Join date : 2011-11-09
Age : 74
Location : At the west end of M4 in the UK
Re: When to turn compost?
LOL, ok, 30" per side. Hurr, glad I didn't do my math like that when I was figuring out bed size and cubic feet of Mel's Mix!
I hadn't thought to use clear plastic, thanks! I'll give it a try!
Oh, and for fun - it's like mid-80s outside right now, and the compost pile even spent part of the day in full sun...
60 degrees in the heart. L-O-L.
I hadn't thought to use clear plastic, thanks! I'll give it a try!
Oh, and for fun - it's like mid-80s outside right now, and the compost pile even spent part of the day in full sun...
60 degrees in the heart. L-O-L.
I think my sunflower plant can take me in a fair fight...it's taller than me, and it keeps giving me dirty looks.
brainchasm- Posts : 479
Join date : 2013-02-26
Age : 49
Location : Las Vegas, NV
Re: When to turn compost?
I use mostly live oak leaves for my browns. They take forever to breakdown. I get a good hot pile going, turn it a few times and it eventually cools off and I can't get it back up to hot. I figure at this point that all the greens have been consumed and only the leaves are left to decompose. So I add some more greens to the pile and it will heat back up but not as hot as before. For greens, I use grass clippings in the summer and veggie scraps. In the winter I use free used coffee grounds, and if I get desperate, I use some blood meal or alfalfa pellets.
yolos- Posts : 4139
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