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Post  Taylorbr811 on 1/29/2013, 4:35 pm

This is my first year with a SFG and I am pretty excited about it. I couldnt upload a picture (at work...) so I used a table to show my garden, it is 3 4x4s. I plan on having a trellis on each box. On the two top gardens they will be on the second row from the north end and on the bottom box it will be on the north end of the box. I also will plan on staking the squash and zucchini and growing it vertically while pruning it as it grows (to keep it in one square) as I have heard some people do around here.

I would really appreciate anyones thoughts on the layout and any problems people see.

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Post  kat51415 on 1/29/2013, 5:49 pm

Feedback, please. This will be our second year. Our first year wasn't a total loss but the drought did most everything in. What the drought didn't burn up, the cucumber beetles wreaked havoc with. Blossom end rot from inconsistent water was rampant. Praying for more rain this year!

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Post  CiderSapling on 1/29/2013, 9:54 pm

Do any of you use bush varieties of squash? Even using SFG I don't have much space - 40ft (for a family of 5, avid produce eaters and willing preservers of summer bounty).

Last year I used bush pumpkin (Cheyenne Bush), yellow squash (Yellow Crookneck OG), and zucchini (Black Beauty OG), all from seeddsavers. The pumpkin got 6 sq ft to itself, but I planted the others one per square foot. I realized the other day this is officially too tight. But I had a TON of success until drought stress and pest beetles set in. Admittedly, the plants hung over the side of my raised bed, and ended up shifting towards the squares that had been containing beans until they were done. The tight quarters seem to help stave off the beetles for a time; it seems the yellow crookneck variety has some resistance and helped protect the zucchini.

I'm trying to plan my garden now. Working to incorporate a more aggressive planting schedule. I guess I'm wondering if the success of the squash plants was a fluke or just the particular varieties doing well in that space.
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Post  Turan on 1/29/2013, 10:47 pm

@CiderSapling wrote:

Last year I used bush pumpkin (Cheyenne Bush), yellow squash (Yellow Crookneck OG), and zucchini (Black Beauty OG), all from seeddsavers. The pumpkin got 6 sq ft to itself, but I planted the others one per square foot.I guess I'm wondering if the success of the squash plants was a fluke or just the particular varieties doing well in that space.
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Its not a fluke Smile Squash only needs a square foot or so per plant for its roots, it is the leaves that need so much room in order to not squash anyone near them. I used to plant squash in a special narrow bed and htey would do their thing over the edge. Now I plant them in the finishing compost pile, 2 per foot and hten a couple feet.

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Post  thegreatcob on 1/30/2013, 9:10 pm

kat51415 nice plan it would be ever better if we could see the taxt label for the vegetables in you bed
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Post  CiderSapling on 1/30/2013, 9:26 pm

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Its not a fluke Smile Squash only needs a square foot or so per plant for its roots, it is the leaves that need so much room in order to not squash anyone near them. I used to plant squash in a special narrow bed and htey would do their thing over the edge. Now I plant them in the finishing compost pile, 2 per foot and hten a couple feet.[/quote]

Excellent point. Thanks!
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Post  NAR56 on 1/31/2013, 3:22 pm

This is my Spring / Summer garden plan. The tomato and vine beds has a trellis in the middle of the beds. I only plan on putting 1 cucumber plan per square and have a zucchini on the end. The main bed will have a trellis on one end for the pole beans. Also, not all cucumbers and tomato squares will be filled in the beginning but added as time goes on. I also plan on pruning tomatoes and cucumbers to just one main stalk. I already planted some tomatoes sine the daytime temp has been in the 70's, we shall see how it goes.

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Post  thegreatcob on 1/31/2013, 6:25 pm

NAR56 the squash are planted to close together unless you plan on training them up a pole.
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Post  NAR56 on 1/31/2013, 6:52 pm

thegreatcob, yes I plan on trellising them. It will be my first attempt to grow / trellis them, but we shall see how it goes.
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Post  RoOsTeR on 2/1/2013, 7:37 am

Since we're talking garden plans...plan on leaving an open square or two for a little somethin somethin lets see your garden plan - Page 2 370856013 lets see your garden plan - Page 2 998388915











































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Post  Goosegirl on 2/1/2013, 8:24 am

@RoOsTeR wrote:Since we're talking garden plans...plan on leaving an open square or two for a little somethin somethin lets see your garden plan - Page 2 370856013 lets see your garden plan - Page 2 998388915

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Post  CindiLou on 2/2/2013, 1:01 am

Yup gotta be! We gotta start talking THE CHALLENGE! lets see your garden plan - Page 2 998388915
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Post  thegreatcob on 2/2/2013, 9:27 pm

we need to get back on topic on garden plans.
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Post  RoOsTeR on 2/2/2013, 9:40 pm

@thegreatcob wrote:we need to get back on topic on garden plans.

How is planning ahead and leaving a couple of empty squares not part of garden planning thegreatcob?

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Post  camprn on 2/2/2013, 10:01 pm

I usually end up with empty squares in anticipation of something not planned for.... and in the end I never have enough squares.... as to my general garden plan... I usually use paper and pencil and go through at least one red rubber eraser.... silly me

Everything is getting rotated this season and at least 4 of my 8 boxes need excavating and elevating... so those boxes will probably hold all the late summer vegetables.

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Post  CindiLou on 2/2/2013, 11:47 pm

If I fill every square I wouldn't have any room for surprises!
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Post  FamilyGardening on 2/3/2013, 12:14 am

SFG area Very Happy at the side of our house

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top 2x2 box is
thyme and (??)
chives, oregano

top first 4x4 box has
4-scarlet runner beans,
garlic, swiss chard, kale, garlic
garlic, terragon, thyme, onions
garlic, lettuce, spinach, onions

top second 4x4 box
Purple beans, 2- straight cucumbers, purple beans
lettuce, dill, parsley,spinach,
tomato, 2- carrots, tomato
oinons, radish, pepper, onions

bottom 1x7 box
tomato, cilantro, chamolmile, tomato, celery, lemon balm, tomato

side 1x3 our son's self watering
kale, yellow cucumber, carrots

side 1x2 our daughters self watering
pickling cucumbers and flowers

Back Garden Area
Back to Eden gardening to compliment SFG Very Happy

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Top box's
potatoes, leeks, onions, carrots and a few flowers

box's to the left
beans
crookneck squash
beans

center box's
cole crops, celery, bok choi, collard greens
potatoes
asparagus

center front box's
corn and pumpkins
corn and pumpkins

Green house 3x2 SFG box
cantalope, sweet potatoes, cantalope
pepper, basil, pepper

we also have 3 1x4 SFG box's along our dog fence
sugar snap peas
yellow pole beans
tomato, flowers, tomato


we are still working on our new front lawn garden area Very Happy a back to eden style gardening with some container growing and hubby said we could also put in 2 4x4 tier layered SFG box's Very Happy like the one we have seen that Josh has on his photo page Very Happy

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Post  donnainzone5 on 2/3/2013, 11:08 am

FamilyGardening,

It appears that you have only one foot between some of your boxes. I know from my own experience that even 21" is insufficient, having spaced two boxes that close because of space and sunlight limitations.

However, I love your plans and wish I had room for so many boxes!
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Post  CindiLou on 2/3/2013, 1:20 pm

FG..remember, chives are a perennial and they spread. I don't know if the others are perennials in your area. In mine some thyme is also but not oregano.
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Post  FamilyGardening on 2/3/2013, 5:47 pm

donna....there is a couple feet between our box's in our SFG area Very Happy the picture i posted was meant to show what we were growing in our box's.....the garden is layed out like showed but with a little more space.....we also have hanging baskets and potted plante as well Very Happy sorry for the confusion..it was hard to try and get the plans to post on here tongue

cindilou the chives, oregano and thyme have been in that container for years and we are glad they are a perennial Very Happy we try to keep all herbs and flowers that are perennial in containers or pots....because we like to be able to rotate our veggies in the garden Box's.....There is one exception that we just found out….our scarlet runner beans maybe perennial so if they come back up this year….the squares we have them in will become there permanent spot cheers

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Post  Turan on 2/4/2013, 10:58 pm

I am reminded in looking at other people's plans that they have longer seasons than I do Laughing

Last year I was introduced here to the web garden planners rather than my pencil drawings. Some how I find it lots of fun to move pictures of eggplants around on a grid on a cold winters day. Very Happy
This year I figured out how to use the succession planting and rotation planting helps this planner has. You will notice there is a whole bed set aside for carrots planted in succession; this year I am ready for Carrot Week!

Anywhere there are tomatoes or peppers there is a greenhouse or cold frame as well.

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Post  Guest on 5/7/2013, 7:23 pm

Here is what I've planted so far and future plans, I've yet to decide on what to plan in the empty spaces - any ideas? I'm not sure how well tomatoes, squash, peppers, etc. grow here in WA state but may try those as the empty spaces are in a place I could use a trellis without shading the other crops.

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