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Post  greatgranny 9/7/2012, 1:45 pm

Is the main stem a woody stem? Seeing the pods reminds me of a Black Locust tree. Are there "thornlike" projections at the crook of the branches?

Look at this and see if this compares: Scroll down and view all of the pictures on this page.

http://www.understanding-horse-nutrition.com/black-locust-tree.html
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Post  bnoles 9/7/2012, 2:16 pm

I agree with greatgranny. What you have is a black locust tree and I would pull it and dispose of it while you still can.
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Post  Unmutual 9/7/2012, 2:49 pm

It could be honey locust too, which is not toxic and actually quite good fodder for chickens(I believe it has to be ground for chicken and human use) and cows. It is also a nitrogen fixer, but it does grow very tall(75' I think) and would probably end up destroying that fence it's close to. It's also very spiny and the native Americans used the 4" thorns for leather needles.

I have a honey locust in a 1 gallon pot that looks exactly like that minus the pods and dying flowers. I'll be planting it soon since the back fence fell over during Isaac and I now have the opportunity to grow a hedge instead...now to find a local source of Elaeagnus multiflora...
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Post  lonewolfrissy 9/7/2012, 3:08 pm

No thorns. the center doesn't seem woody.

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I was corrected. Honey says yes to the thorn like projections.

The flowers from what I recall don't match the Example picture. The pods aren't black, they're green. And keep in mind, I live in a desert where this stuff grows wild.
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Post  camprn 9/7/2012, 4:28 pm

bnoles wrote:I agree with greatgranny. What you have is a black locust tree and I would pull it and dispose of it while you still can.
OR you can transplant it else where on the property. It will attract pollinators when it blooms.

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Post  greatgranny 9/7/2012, 4:51 pm

Unmutual wrote:It could be honey locust too, which is not toxic and actually quite good fodder for chickens(I believe it has to be ground for chicken and human use) and cows. It is also a nitrogen fixer, but it does grow very tall(75' I think) and would probably end up destroying that fence it's close to. It's also very spiny and the native Americans used the 4" thorns for leather needles.

I have a honey locust in a 1 gallon pot that looks exactly like that minus the pods and dying flowers. I'll be planting it soon since the back fence fell over during Isaac and I now have the opportunity to grow a hedge instead...now to find a local source of Elaeagnus multiflora...

As I recall, having one time in my life a Honey Locust - I don't recall the pods. The pods on lonewolfrissy's picture are the ones that I recall from my childhood when huge Black Locust grew in my hometown. The pods would fall to the ground in the fall and were everywhere. I took one home to my Mom and made her plant one seed. Well, it grew - and grew. I never knew that they were toxic. I do now. I would get rid of it, especially for the safety of animals - if you have ones that forage everything.
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Post  camprn 9/7/2012, 4:55 pm

Ask the Coop Extension service Ag agent for an ID.

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Post  plantoid 9/7/2012, 6:00 pm

Look up the vetches that grow in your locality , for I feel that the leaves look like some form of vetch .
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Post  lonewolfrissy 9/7/2012, 11:17 pm

My whodawhata?

I forwarded the pics to the local plant ider people.... No reply yet. =/

Flowers look nothing like the vetch images on google. They had white/yellowish flowers with pink/reddish tendrils in the center if I recall correctly.
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Post  camprn 9/7/2012, 11:33 pm

lonewolfrissy wrote:My whodawhata?

I think this is your local office of the coop extension service thay can help you ID that plant and any garden troubles.
http://ceriverside.ucdavis.edu/

http://www.csrees.usda.gov/Extension/

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Post  lonewolfrissy 9/8/2012, 11:28 am

Joshua Tree is in San Bernadino. But that's a good backup to keep in mind. Smile
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Post  camprn 9/8/2012, 12:11 pm

lonewolfrissy wrote:Joshua Tree is in San Bernadino. But that's a good backup to keep in mind. Smile
Click on the links to see if there is an office closer to your location.

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Closest office is an hour and half drive from here. Sad *sigh* I need to move. lol Thank   for Email! Very Happy
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Post  Chopper 9/9/2012, 3:42 am

You may be able to send samples in. Just ask. Otherwise bring a sample to local nurseries and see what you can find.

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Post  frogdog 11/22/2012, 11:19 pm

Looks pretty much exactly like a mimosa tree. They are invasive here. Have a large pinkish red powder puff bloom (not a powder puff mimosa which is native florida groundcover). That's my guess.

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