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Post  Marc Iverson on 7/20/2013, 6:04 pm

@CapeCoddess wrote:Marc, I allow the clover to grow in my lawn each year. Result: tons of bees, tons of toms!

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That's a neat idea. I have some "bouquet basil" with tiny leaves and tiny flowers. They are such cute, modest plants that produce so comparatively little that I think I may just leave the flowers on them so they attract more bees. It's not like they make a ton of basil anyway.
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Post  NHGardener on 7/21/2013, 8:28 am

QB, those bee balms are beautiful! Did you throw seed there, or how did you plant those? I want to put some in my wildflower patch - this year all that came up were sunflower flowers, which the pollinators seem to like and the whole patch is almost a neon yellow/orange, but I'd like to get some bee balm in there next year.
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Post  greatgranny on 7/18/2014, 5:08 pm

I know this is an old tread but I have a question regarding bee balm.  I know that it will have to come out of my boxes.  It is stealing too much of the area around the other plants.  Would like to pot some of it but don't know if it will survive a winter up here.  Anyone in zone 4 have an opinion on this? 

I am going to move some of it about 30 feet from my boxes.  Will this still help attract the pollinators or is it too far away?
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Post  camprn on 7/18/2014, 5:58 pm

@greatgranny wrote:I know this is an old tread but I have a question regarding bee balm.  I know that it will have to come out of my boxes.  It is stealing too much of the area around the other plants.  Would like to pot some of it but don't know if it will survive a winter up here.  Anyone in zone 4 have an opinion on this? 

I am going to move some of it about 30 feet from my boxes.  Will this still help attract the pollinators or is it too far away?
just plunk it in the ground somewhere. Give it a shovel full of compost and it should take care of itself. I put a 4 inch pot of bee balm in my flower garden 2 years ago and now it is taking up a 3 foot round area. It likes a lot of sun.

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Post  NHGardener on 7/18/2014, 6:10 pm

What beautiful flowers! And perennials. I have to put that on my list.

Edit - well that's scary. Guess I already made this comment last year. Smile

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Post  camprn on 7/18/2014, 7:59 pm

LOL NHG, you are busy. Do you have a note book?

Here is a photo of one of the clumps of bee balm that started in a 4" pot 2 years ago. The red I have did the same thing. As soon as it's done flowering I'm ripping a lot of it out and planting it elsewhere.

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Post  greatgranny on 7/18/2014, 9:33 pm

@camprn wrote:
@greatgranny wrote:I know this is an old tread but I have a question regarding bee balm.  I know that it will have to come out of my boxes.  It is stealing too much of the area around the other plants.  Would like to pot some of it but don't know if it will survive a winter up here.  Anyone in zone 4 have an opinion on this? 

I am going to move some of it about 30 feet from my boxes.  Will this still help attract the pollinators or is it too far away?
just plunk it in the ground somewhere. Give it a shovel full of compost and it should take care of itself. I put a 4 inch pot of bee balm in my flower garden 2 years ago and now it is taking up a 3 foot round area. It likes a lot of sun.
I guess my main concern is it better to have it close to my boxes and if I do put it in pots, would it withstand the winter.  I want to put some of it directly in the ground like you suggested.

Yes, the flowers are very pretty.  The bees are currently going nuts.  I haven't a clue what most of them are besides the bumble bees.
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Post  NHGardener on 7/18/2014, 10:08 pm

Maybe I *should* keep a notebook. That's a good idea.

Those are beautiful, camprn. Great spot for them. They make a good landscaping plant.
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Post  Pollinator on 7/19/2014, 12:56 am

@camprn wrote:I love the flavor too, one reason I prefer Earl Grey tea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarda_didyma
My white clover is almost all done in the yard/meadow. I am sure the grumpy, mute, scowling neighbor will be happy when I finally mow the lawn/meadow.

Heehee. We mow around the patches of clover in our lawn (until they go to seed), just to give the bees a good feed. We tell our neighbors those are flower beds. And they are pretty, until they turn brown.
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Post  AtlantaMarie on 7/19/2014, 9:00 am

Yes, they are pretty!  At least now I know what mine will look like once I start getting flowers on them, lol.
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Post  greatgranny on 7/19/2014, 9:07 am

@Pollinator wrote:
@camprn wrote:I love the flavor too, one reason I prefer Earl Grey tea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarda_didyma
My white clover is almost all done in the yard/meadow. I am sure the grumpy, mute, scowling neighbor will be happy when I finally mow the lawn/meadow.

Heehee. We mow around the patches of clover in our lawn (until they go to seed), just to give the bees a good feed. We tell our neighbors those are flower beds. And they are pretty, until they turn brown.
The neighbors - that's why I live in the country away from the nosy perfectionists.

Does anyone remember that white clover seed used to be sold in seed stores?  I do.  My lawn is a mass of white blooms right now.  Dare not go barefoot without looking down.
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Post  camprn on 7/19/2014, 9:12 am

I bought some white dutch clover seed to boost the number of blooms in the lawn. I'll be sowing them within the next month or so.

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Post  greatgranny on 7/19/2014, 9:25 am

@camprn wrote:I bought some white dutch clover seed to boost the number of blooms in the lawn. I'll be sowing them within the next month or so.
I have a portion of the lawn that is currently bare due to an invasion of Virginia Creeper killing a tree and a couple of bushes.  (I know, I dropped the ball on that part of my yard)  So, grandson hooked his 4 wheel drive and pulled the whole mess out, cut the stumps really low so I can mow over the top. 

I'm going to get a bag of grass seed and mix with some clover. Where do you get the clover seed?
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Post  camprn on 7/19/2014, 9:36 am

Probably near the grass seed. Years ago clover was a normal component of a grass seed mix. I do not know if they still sell such a mixture.

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Post  nycquilter on 7/19/2014, 9:48 am

when I wanted red/purple clover and couldn't find any, I went to the health food store and bought clover seeds for sprouting. They worked beautifully.
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Post  camprn on 7/19/2014, 10:52 am

White clover is more nutritious for pollinators than red. It also remains short in its growth pattern.

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Post  greatgranny on 7/19/2014, 11:00 am

@camprn wrote:White clover is more nutritious for pollinators than red. It also remains short in its growth pattern.
Totally agree.
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Post  NHGardener on 7/19/2014, 11:02 am

Bees have been all over my white clover, but more recently they are all over the plantain, which is also a short plant. Between the short weeds it really keeps the "lawn" at bay. I've been reading about plantain and find that it's a less nutritious pollen source that the bees will cover when other sources are low. And also that the leaves, torn up and some say to chew them first, are a great sting reliever. But plantain is also bad for allergy sufferers.
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