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Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
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KelliK
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Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
Finally got some time to get the SFG boxes going.
Nowhere near my usually ambitious planting ... but it's a start.
This seasons planting (4 x 4 box only, so far)...
Tomato; Sweet 100's (x4), back row
Tomato; Phoenix hybrid (x2), LHS, row 2/3
Tomato; Cherokee Purple (x4) Center 4 squares
Bell Peppers; Yellow(1), Orange(1), Green(2), Red(2) for the balance.
Nothing glamourous, but mama (and hopefully, baby) like the grape/spoon varieties, mama likes her peppers, the Phoenix will set/fruit in high temps ...and I still get my favorite ... the black tom's.
I rehabbed the "frankenstein box". It's a little more low-tech, but should still handle my local high winds. Still using the automatic drip irrigation from previous seasons. I'm also pleased to report that my boxes/equipment & Mel's mix are no worse for the wear, after the 18 months of neglect
Link to pics HERE
Nowhere near my usually ambitious planting ... but it's a start.
This seasons planting (4 x 4 box only, so far)...
Tomato; Sweet 100's (x4), back row
Tomato; Phoenix hybrid (x2), LHS, row 2/3
Tomato; Cherokee Purple (x4) Center 4 squares
Bell Peppers; Yellow(1), Orange(1), Green(2), Red(2) for the balance.
Nothing glamourous, but mama (and hopefully, baby) like the grape/spoon varieties, mama likes her peppers, the Phoenix will set/fruit in high temps ...and I still get my favorite ... the black tom's.
I rehabbed the "frankenstein box". It's a little more low-tech, but should still handle my local high winds. Still using the automatic drip irrigation from previous seasons. I'm also pleased to report that my boxes/equipment & Mel's mix are no worse for the wear, after the 18 months of neglect

Link to pics HERE
acara-
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Location : Wesley Chapel, Florida (Zone 9)
Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
Welcome back! Glad to hear that mama and baby are doing well. Did you ever get beyond your aversion to sunshine?
I might get some tomatoes this year for a change, and am sure to need some hand holding from an expert!
I might get some tomatoes this year for a change, and am sure to need some hand holding from an expert!

Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
One bed's better than none and it looks great
I especially like the automatic drip stystem

I especially like the automatic drip stystem

RoOsTeR-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
boffer wrote: Did you ever get beyond your aversion to sunshine?
Unknown ... but I'm staying covered up, just in case. No I'll effects from being out yesterday/today though .... errr, yet

acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
So glad to see the tomato guru back. Need update pic of Connor as well.
Kay
Kay
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walshevak
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
I see you are using 4 gph drip irrigation. How long/often do you run it?
elliephant-
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Wait a minute!
You can put 1 tomato in 1 square?! Please tell me yes, so I can double my tomato love...
KelliK-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
KelliK, you certainly CAN put 1 tomato in 1 square. Just make sure of two things:
1: The tomato variety is indeterminate (vining type)
2: You trellis it so it grows up instead of along the ground
Acara, good luck with your garden! Tomatoes are the best veggie for busy people
1: The tomato variety is indeterminate (vining type)
2: You trellis it so it grows up instead of along the ground
Acara, good luck with your garden! Tomatoes are the best veggie for busy people

Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
littlesapphire wrote:KelliK, you certainly CAN put 1 tomato in 1 square. Just make sure of two things:
1: The tomato variety is indeterminate (vining type)
2: You trellis it so it grows up instead of along the ground
Acara, good luck with your garden! Tomatoes are the best veggie for busy people
I would add
3: You keep on top of the pruning.
elliephant-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
elliephant wrote:littlesapphire wrote:KelliK, you certainly CAN put 1 tomato in 1 square. Just make sure of two things:
1: The tomato variety is indeterminate (vining type)
2: You trellis it so it grows up instead of along the ground
Acara, good luck with your garden! Tomatoes are the best veggie for busy people
I would add
3: You keep on top of the pruning.
Ditto #3, super important!! I literally am out there almost daily pruning off suckers and trying to keep the sweet 100 cherry from going crazy and sometimes I still feel like it's gonna take over everything lol. Next year... it gets two spots lol.
CarolinaGirl- Posts : 98
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
Please tell me about the Epsom salts?
I have an ready supply having an injury prone athlete and an old man who thinks he is a teenager, in the house.
I have an ready supply having an injury prone athlete and an old man who thinks he is a teenager, in the house.
kbb964-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
Inspired by your return, I went out and did some major pruning of my tomatoes and cukes! I'd totally forgotten how you'd inspired me to do so last year.
elliephant-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
elliephant wrote:I see you are using 4 gph drip irrigation. How long/often do you run it?
30 min ..
1x/daily (6AM) < 85-F
2x/daily (6AM, 4PM) >85-F
acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
elliephant wrote:Inspired by your return, I went out and did some major pruning of my tomatoes and cukes! I'd totally forgotten how you'd inspired me to do so last year.
LOL ... a handful a day keeps the diseases away !!! At least for toms


acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
kbb964 wrote:Please tell me about the Epsom salts?
I have an ready supply having an injury prone athlete and an old man who thinks he is a teenager, in the house.
It's just magnesium sulphate.
if you believe the hype

Theory is ... even if you add calcium, the plants may not be able to use it (either due to plant type type, age or pH).
Calcium deficinecy is believed to be the primary cause of blossum end rot (BER).
So in addition to adding calcium, aging the substrate (some forms of calcium take a long time to break down and aren't immediately available to plants) and keeping the watering constant; I add the Epsom Salt to keep the calciim available to the plant & minimize/prevent BER on my tomatoes.
acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
walshevak wrote:So glad to see the tomato guru back. Need update pic of Connor as well.
Kay

acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
where do you put the Epsom salts?...in the hole when planting? or above ground around the tom?
thanks
rose
thanks
rose
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
FamilyGardening wrote:where do you put the Epsom salts?...in the hole when planting? or above ground around the tom?
thanks
rose
Yes

I actually put a teaspoon in when I put the tom's in the ground/box and them wait until the plant blossoms.
After that, I put 1 tbsp/foot of plant height, around the base, about every 2 weeks.
Thers also a "legend" that if you dissolve Epsom in warm water & spray it on the tomatos while they are developing, it will thicken the skin and prevent cracking. Personally, I've never been able to validate that one & don't consider it "gospel"....just my $.02
I''ll vouch for the "less BER with Epsom" rumor though

acara-
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
Hi Acara, I'm the new Coastal & Tropical South host. I see you're an experienced gardener with an absolutely adorable little guy there to keep you busy. I look forward to watching your tomatoes as they grow! I think I'll use the epsom salts on my tomatoes to see how it works. Can you use it with any other crops?
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Re: Knocked off the cobwebs & fired it up
The whole "Epsom salt thing" is "folklore" at best ... but the prevant rumor is that it is pretty close to fact for peppers and toms.
My OPINION is that because toms and peppers use so much calcium while bearing produce, it never hurts. However, if you read enough garden journals, you'll eventually see a case where excessive Epsom is reported to have "burned" a crop.
I've allso heard it has benefits when added to roses ... but again, garden-voodoo.
I can't say I've ever seen anyone report "burning" tom's/peppers, so I consider it safe on those two. However, I've gardened mostly in the Southeast, where our "dirt" sucks, and adding almost anything to it is an improvement
When in doubt, have a soil test run and then use the Epsom if your pH, magnesium and sulfur are all in tolerance/range ...thats the safe bet.
My OPINION is that because toms and peppers use so much calcium while bearing produce, it never hurts. However, if you read enough garden journals, you'll eventually see a case where excessive Epsom is reported to have "burned" a crop.
I've allso heard it has benefits when added to roses ... but again, garden-voodoo.
I can't say I've ever seen anyone report "burning" tom's/peppers, so I consider it safe on those two. However, I've gardened mostly in the Southeast, where our "dirt" sucks, and adding almost anything to it is an improvement

When in doubt, have a soil test run and then use the Epsom if your pH, magnesium and sulfur are all in tolerance/range ...thats the safe bet.
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