Search
Latest topics
» Strawberry Varieties?by Scorpio Rising Yesterday at 7:47 am
» Mark's first SFG
by markqz 11/30/2023, 10:55 pm
» What Have You Picked From Your Garden Today
by OhioGardener 11/29/2023, 5:36 am
» Senseless Banter...
by sanderson 11/28/2023, 10:31 pm
» N & C Midwest: November/December 2023
by sanderson 11/27/2023, 9:23 pm
» FREE Online SFG Class - November 28, 2023
by sanderson 11/27/2023, 9:21 pm
» Mini-Raised Beds?
by Chuck d'Argy 11/27/2023, 2:14 pm
» Happy Birthday!!
by sanderson 11/26/2023, 10:58 pm
» Name the mystery (to me) seedlings! :-)
by Psdumas 11/25/2023, 12:04 am
» Happy Thanksgiving from the USA
by sanderson 11/23/2023, 1:47 pm
» Strawberries in MM: to feed or not to feed?
by Scorpio Rising 11/22/2023, 10:42 pm
» Guatemalan Green Ayote Squash
by OhioGardener 11/21/2023, 8:27 am
» Kiwi's SFG Adventure
by sanderson 11/20/2023, 2:06 pm
» Seeds 'n Such Early Order Seeds
by sanderson 11/20/2023, 1:13 pm
» USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Map
by OhioGardener 11/19/2023, 7:12 am
» AeroGarden for starting seeds?
by OhioGardener 11/16/2023, 12:40 pm
» Biochar?
by OhioGardener 11/16/2023, 10:31 am
» 2023 - Updated U.S. Interactive Plant Hardiness Map
by sanderson 11/15/2023, 6:18 pm
» SFG Is Intensive Gardening
by sanderson 11/14/2023, 3:26 pm
» Teaming with Microbes Kindle Sale (Mem. Day weekend 2023)
by markqz 11/10/2023, 12:42 am
» Bok Choy Hors d'oeuvres
by donnainzone5 11/9/2023, 5:58 pm
» Now is the Time to Start Preparing Next Year's Spring Garden
by OhioGardener 11/9/2023, 7:13 am
» Shocking Reality: Is Urine the Ultimate Gardening Hack or Disaster?
by dstack 11/6/2023, 5:29 pm
» Nightmare on Mel Street.
by Scorpio Rising 11/4/2023, 6:37 pm
» Aerogardening
by Scorpio Rising 11/3/2023, 10:02 am
» Sunday All Purpose Organic Garden Nutrients
by lisawallace88 11/3/2023, 9:13 am
» Mid-summer seed sowing, how do you do it?
by KiwiSFGnewbie 11/2/2023, 8:04 pm
» N&C Midwest October 2023
by OhioGardener 11/1/2023, 8:49 am
» Fall Tree Colors
by Scorpio Rising 10/31/2023, 1:48 pm
» Freeze Dried Food
by lisawallace88 10/30/2023, 11:28 am
Google
Newbie in Central NY looking for advice
4 posters
Page 1 of 1
Newbie in Central NY looking for advice
Hello everyone!
I am brand new to square foot gardening (just joined about a half an hour ago) and haven't gardened for a good many years. I live in Central NY north of the Finger Lakes, about 2 miles from Lake Ontario. After perusing my bills and available $, this morning,
I have come to the conclusion that I simply MUST put in a garden if I hope to survive. After a recent scare with colon cancer, organic is super important to me, so I'm hoping you all will have lots of hints to keep away pests and so forth. I have a friend that can help me with some cedar boards and I read a few of the other posts so I will use some nylon string for the grids. Obviously, being brand new to this, I have no compost, soil or anything else much besides the will to do it.
I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Last frost date around here is toward the end of May. I am hoping to have the boxes built this month (today is 3 April) and then will get working on the soil. What do you suggest I do for compost? Is it too late to add some sort of manure? I need to find the most cost effective way to do this, so going out and buying MM isn't doable for me at the moment. i should mention that I am no spring chicken and live alone with kids scattered far across the country, so I'm on my own with this project.
I'm hoping to build at least 4 boxes. Any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcome.
Josie



I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. Last frost date around here is toward the end of May. I am hoping to have the boxes built this month (today is 3 April) and then will get working on the soil. What do you suggest I do for compost? Is it too late to add some sort of manure? I need to find the most cost effective way to do this, so going out and buying MM isn't doable for me at the moment. i should mention that I am no spring chicken and live alone with kids scattered far across the country, so I'm on my own with this project.
I'm hoping to build at least 4 boxes. Any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcome.

Josie
starduster303- Posts : 3
Join date : 2012-04-03
Location : Wolcott, NY
Re: Newbie in Central NY looking for advice
Welcome to the forum.
If you aren't going to start with the Mel's Mix method, then you need good soil in your boxes. Can you find rich garden loam available for a reasonable price? I'd amend that with some peat moss, some course vermiculite IF you can find it, and store-bought aged compost and aged cow manure and also greensand, rock phosphate and bloodmeal for your organic additives (follow directions on the containers). Its a beginning.
Level the area under your boxes. Either remove all the grass or layer the inside of the boxes with cardboard and layers of newspaper to keep out weeds. Many use weedbarrier if you can afford it.
While you're growing your food, you can put in a compost corner and save all your weeds and thinnings, fall leaves, mowed grasses, and kitchen waste in the pile to make your own rich compost for next year.
Its all doable. I started that way myself because I wasn't even aware of Mel's Mix at the time. You can keep adding to your boxes rich compost each year or add a few bags of the purchased Mel's Mix and before long you'll have a Mel's Mix garden.
Lots of good, sound advice around here on growing your foods. Can you get the 'All New Square Foot Gardening' book by Mel Bartholomew from your local library? Even the old one, 'Square Foot Gardening,' is full of great advice. They need to be read and notes taken. They'll help you immensely with how to grow your crops.
For fighting to keep your health, I'd be sure to grow the foods with the highest micronutrients, like Kale, Collards, Bok Choy, Spinach, Brussels Sprouts, Arugula, Cabbage, Romaine, Cauliflower, Green Pepper, Carrots, and the like and they all grow well in an SFG.
If you have questions, enter a key word in the Search function on the left and lots of posts will come up to help you. If you can't find the answer, come back and post your questions. Good luck.
If you aren't going to start with the Mel's Mix method, then you need good soil in your boxes. Can you find rich garden loam available for a reasonable price? I'd amend that with some peat moss, some course vermiculite IF you can find it, and store-bought aged compost and aged cow manure and also greensand, rock phosphate and bloodmeal for your organic additives (follow directions on the containers). Its a beginning.
Level the area under your boxes. Either remove all the grass or layer the inside of the boxes with cardboard and layers of newspaper to keep out weeds. Many use weedbarrier if you can afford it.
While you're growing your food, you can put in a compost corner and save all your weeds and thinnings, fall leaves, mowed grasses, and kitchen waste in the pile to make your own rich compost for next year.
Its all doable. I started that way myself because I wasn't even aware of Mel's Mix at the time. You can keep adding to your boxes rich compost each year or add a few bags of the purchased Mel's Mix and before long you'll have a Mel's Mix garden.
Lots of good, sound advice around here on growing your foods. Can you get the 'All New Square Foot Gardening' book by Mel Bartholomew from your local library? Even the old one, 'Square Foot Gardening,' is full of great advice. They need to be read and notes taken. They'll help you immensely with how to grow your crops.
For fighting to keep your health, I'd be sure to grow the foods with the highest micronutrients, like Kale, Collards, Bok Choy, Spinach, Brussels Sprouts, Arugula, Cabbage, Romaine, Cauliflower, Green Pepper, Carrots, and the like and they all grow well in an SFG.
If you have questions, enter a key word in the Search function on the left and lots of posts will come up to help you. If you can't find the answer, come back and post your questions. Good luck.
quiltbea-
Posts : 4712
Join date : 2010-03-21
Age : 81
Location : Southwestern Maine Zone 5A
Thank you!
I am hoping to be able to get at least a few bags of the MM, but know that I can't start off the way I'd really like to be able to do. Thanks for the tips on mixing the soil. Yes, I am going to put Mel's book on hold at the library. I have so much to learn!
starduster303- Posts : 3
Join date : 2012-04-03
Location : Wolcott, NY
Re: Newbie in Central NY looking for advice
Welcome
Josie
I did a Craigslist search Finger Lakes and there is lot of compost/manure for free on it. There should be an Agway close by you, they carry a lot of the stuff for the mix plus they can order most anything. The only part of the mix that is real expensive is the coarse vermiculite, peat is pretty cheap and compost can be free or cheap. If you need help with the labor most churches have volunteer programs or a couple of bucks for a high school kid. As for pests there are a lot of homemade remedies found on this forum plus companion planting will help.

I did a Craigslist search Finger Lakes and there is lot of compost/manure for free on it. There should be an Agway close by you, they carry a lot of the stuff for the mix plus they can order most anything. The only part of the mix that is real expensive is the coarse vermiculite, peat is pretty cheap and compost can be free or cheap. If you need help with the labor most churches have volunteer programs or a couple of bucks for a high school kid. As for pests there are a lot of homemade remedies found on this forum plus companion planting will help.
chjbr63-
Posts : 106
Join date : 2012-03-27
Age : 60
Location : Northeast PA
Re: Newbie in Central NY looking for advice
In the ANSFG book, Mel talks about using 100% compost in countries where people can't find peat & vermiculite. IF you can find a GOOD source of organic compost (preferably in bulk which would be cheaper) you could do that until you have the finances to make MM.
Not sure if they sell it (didn't have time to read it) but New York Compost may help. Oh, and of course their use of "organic" just means "matter that has come from a once-living organism, is capable of decay or
the product of decay, or is composed of organic compound". It sure doesn't mean there aren't chemicals in it.
Not sure if they sell it (didn't have time to read it) but New York Compost may help. Oh, and of course their use of "organic" just means "matter that has come from a once-living organism, is capable of decay or
the product of decay, or is composed of organic compound". It sure doesn't mean there aren't chemicals in it.
I have seen women looking at jewelry ads with a misty eye and one hand resting on the heart, and I only know what they're feeling because that's how I read the seed catalogs in January - Barbara Kingsolver - Animal, Vegetable, Miracle
sfg4u.com
FB: Square Foot Gardening 4 U

FB: Square Foot Gardening 4 U

» Newbie, looking for planning advice
» Newbie In (Southwest) MI Looking For Advice
» One more newbie advice topic....
» Newbie SFGer in N. Virginia needing some advice
» Newbie SFGer needs some advice - disease issue?
» Newbie In (Southwest) MI Looking For Advice
» One more newbie advice topic....
» Newbie SFGer in N. Virginia needing some advice
» Newbie SFGer needs some advice - disease issue?
Page 1 of 1
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
|
|