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Post  AtlantaMarie on 2/18/2015, 3:23 pm

Woo-Hoo, DStack!
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Post  saganco on 12/20/2017, 2:43 pm

Well, it's been 8 days since I loaded the Jora and thought I would update the progress and seek help. 

Side 1 is still sitting at 80 degrees.  Since I loaded it on 12-12, I have added some shredded cardboard and a scoop of wood pellets on 12-15, then on 12-16 more wood pellets (as it was still too wet) and the temp was 75 degrees yesterday 12-19.  Today 12-20, I added some more shredded leaves, 1 scoop of wood pellets, and some wood ash - temperature is 80 degrees today.  Also still too wet...

Side 2 is my golden child!  I was more precise with making more equal parts on the initial loading so I think that's why.  Here's the skinny on it.  12-15 added some shredded cardboard and 1 scoop of pellets, temp was around 70 degrees.  12-19 nothing new added, still too damp though - temp was 117.  Today 12-20, temp was 147!!  I added 1 scoop of pellets to try and help with the dampness, and tumbled some, then the temp dropped to 140 (maybe having the door open so long in a cold garage?).

So compost experts - what do I need to do at this point for either side?  Neither side smells bad though - and I have to thing that's a positive!  Looking pretty nice inside too...  Just not gaining heat on side 1.  Also if it gets to 160 degrees on side 2, do I do something to try to cool it off?  Thanks all!  This is so fun!!
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Post  dstack on 12/20/2017, 5:05 pm

I have the same issue of sogginess with my Jora 270 which I got in October. And I also expected it to be easier to get it to heat up. At Least it's very easy to turn, being that it's a tumbler. I crammed the left side with compost that was mostly decayed, and the temp is usually around 75°. The right side is where I'm adding fresh food scraps and dried leaves.

As far as cooling it off at 160° I wouldn't worry about it. I've never seen my hot compost get past 156°.
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Post  saganco on 12/20/2017, 7:58 pm

Hey dstack - good to know that I'm not just messing this up.  However, just checked the temp on side 2 again and it's 154 degrees!!  Steaming stuff!  So if no one tells me to "slow it down" on the hot side, I'll just let it go do it's thing.

Do you keep adding anything to deal with the sogginess?  I tried wood pellets, but don't want to throw my ratios off dramatically...  Oh, and side 1 has made it up to 90 now!
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Post  dstack on 12/22/2017, 5:03 am

154°!? That's awesome! Congrats!

This past weekend I left it open for an hour or two to let it dry out on top. Then I rotated it to find another soggy area and let that dry out. I did this about 4 times. Now that right side is heating up better.
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Post  saganco on 12/22/2017, 12:34 pm

Thanks dstack - it was 160 on side 2 last night, and I swapped more of the compost from the two sides.  When I go out to the 20+ degree garage in a bit, we'll see if side 1 has started heating.  Both sides were dripping leachate yesterday, so I'll let it dry out a bit today and see what happens next.
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Post  sanderson on 12/22/2017, 1:36 pm

@dstack wrote:154°!? That's awesome! Congrats!

This past weekend I left it open for an hour or two to let it dry out on top. Then I rotated it to find another soggy area and let that dry out. I did this about 4 times.  Now that right side is heating up better.
Dstack, I'm glad to see that someone else turns and airs out to reduce moisture. Very Happy

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Post  saganco on 12/22/2017, 9:11 pm

With outdoor humidity of generally less than 20% here, drying out shouldn't be an issue - UNLESS leaving the door open for the better part of the day will slow down the process (by cooling things off in the 30-ish degree garage)...
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Post  saganco on 12/26/2017, 3:13 pm

Hmmm, I don't know if my open door/drying session just cooled things off too much, or if it's part of the natural cycle, but neither side now is hot.  Yesterday it was side 1: 142 degrees, and side 2: 130 degrees.  This morning, it was 108 and 97 degrees.  I put some shredded cardboard and some aged rabbit poop and bedding in to see if it warms back up.  Hope I didn't screw this up...!  I knew I wasn't destined to be a hottie for long at my age!!
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Post  sanderson on 12/27/2017, 2:12 am

I am thinking the extra cardboard is not the ingredient to add. ?? More "greens" perhaps? what say others?

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Post  dstack on 12/27/2017, 8:56 am

Mine heated up to 130 on one side, while the other side is in need of being strained. Then I'll switch sides so I'm adding the fresh food scraps and leaves to the other side.
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Post  saganco on 12/27/2017, 9:54 am

Do the dropping temps mean something I should know, or is this normal after about 14 days of composting?  I did add some aged rabbit poo for more nitrogen as well.  The cardboard was because it was still soggy...
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Post  No_Such_Reality on 7/2/2018, 5:45 pm

Since my compost trash cans are all full at the moment of 80% finished compost, i consolidated and mixed a fresh batch in the third bin for a hot run.  Its a mix of green branch and leaf shrub trimmings, a pile of dry and green purple fountain grass from my nubification of it, the entire green waste bin from the yard clean up dominated by the scheflerra leaves all ground through the eco-shredder.  I wetted (over soaked), mixed and piled into the trash can composter.  Im a little low on greens i think as it heated slowly to about 125F.  On the Fourth day, i dumped turned and remixed adding additional greens by weddingwedding and adding about a six inch layer (spread throughout) of greens.  

Today im back to 125 but seem to be holding at 125.  Next turn day shou!d be July 4. Id really like to push the pile for a slightly higher hold temp. Other than trying to blend in another batch of greens any tricks to give a little umpf to my heating Ive missed in scanning the 26 pages of the thread?


We're also heading into a monsoonal air flow temps on Thurs, Fri and Saturday are supposed to push to 103F.  Given the high ambient temp should i turn more frequently or let it be?

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Post  donnainzone5 on 7/2/2018, 9:24 pm

NSR,

What about browns?  I suspect that's why your compost isn't heating up sufficiently.
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Post  sanderson on 7/3/2018, 2:33 am

NSR, Volume. For a hot compost, 3'x3'x3' min to 4'x4'x4' max. Alfalfa pellets and used coffee grounds may help raise the temps but without volume, it just may not reach record temps. What volume is your container. (I noticed you said "dumped" so I assume it's kind of garbage can. ??

I'm having success with the 80-gallon, single chamber, Lifetime tumbler reaching 160*F.

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Post  No_Such_Reality on 7/3/2018, 5:28 pm

The adding some additional greens helped. I'm currently running just shy of 140F .Looks like about 48C.  Originally too much browns as the scheflerra leaves quickly dry.  I think i over wetted too.  Its a little small for a pile only 50 gal but my tumbler is out of commission until i disassemble and replace a broken panel.

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